--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > Shemp, I don't have time for your disbelief games.
> 
> 
> 
> "Disbelief games"?
> 
> I think, Unc, that you're the one playing head games when you claim 
> to have experienced "real" levitation and then, one post later, upon 
> questioning, qualify the claim.

Shemp, I did not "qualify the claim."  I was honest.  I gave
you an "easy out" for your disbelief by telling you the exact
truth of what happened.  Some -- most -- students saw this
stuff; some didn't.  I didn't have to mention that.  But it's the
truth.

Does this imply that the phenomenon of levitation was not
happening on a gross, physical level.  You bet your ass it
does.  But does it imply that the levitation wasn't really
happening?  Only if you believe that levitation is something
that happens on the gross, physical level.

You obviously believe this.  I am happy for you, and hope
that your certainty brings you much peace.  

> Either you did or you didn't.

I did.  You don't want to believe this.  And *nothing* I can
possibly say can change this situation.  I'm being nice and
explaining this, but *that* won't do any good, either.  You
entered (in fact, instigated) this discussion convinced that
you knew the truth about what levitation "really" is, and you
will leave the discussion the same way.  

> It sounds to me like you're playing a game of spiritual-one-
> upmanship: I'm special...I've actually experienced someone 
> levitating.

I'm supposed to lie and say I haven't?  I have.  So have
maybe two or three thousand other people who studied
with Rama over the years, and thousands more who saw
him do this stuff in public lectures.  Doesn't sound all that 
special to me.  :-)

> May I suggest that if you have, indeed, experienced such a thing 
> that you keep it to yourself instead of bragging to everyone that 
> you experienced something that 5,000 years of recorded human history 
> would come to a standstill if even the remotest possible proof was 
> offered to its reality.

You are fooling yourself.  No one would fucking notice if
scientific proof of levitation was found tomorrow.  Nothing
would happen.  People would read about it and do exactly
what you are doing right now.  






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