---Eckhart Tolle in all of his writings and experiences attempts to 
describe the enlightened state to the rest of us; he gives many 
examples of: how to become aware of what he calls "Presence".
Become aware of the witness, he tries to give immediate awareness of 
the "Now Moment".
I have found his teachings to be helpful. 


 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> <snip>
> > But if one could for a second remember the qualities of 
> consciousness when not in meditation and then realize that life 
simply 
> cannot exist even when ignorant, outside of those qualities, and 
also 
> accept that ignorance is also based upon consciousness, and really 
> make that connect, then they would see that there is nothing but 
> consciousness.
> 
> Does this describe the process you went through as
> you went through it, or is it back-to-front, as it
> were, from the perspective of having made the connect?
> 
> My sense is that it is not easy for one who has
> made the connect to recapitulate the process of
> having made it, such that someone who hasn't
> made it yet can successfully follow the same steps
> and make the same connect.
> 
> Just as those still in ignorance can be said to
> have "forgotten" their enlightenment, it seems to
> me, at least in many cases, that those who have
> realized their enlightenment can be said to have
> "forgotten" what it was like for them to be in
> ignorance.  It's the nature of the beast, in both
> instances.
> 
> In that regard, it's astonishing that *anybody*
> who has realized their enlightenment can teach
> those still in ignorance to realize their own
> enlightenment.  It's the blind (blind to ignorance)
> leading the blind (blind to enlightenment).




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