--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > > > > > Wnat I *do* want badly enough to spend the
> > > > > > time day after day doing program is to no
> > > > > > longer be overshadowed.  
> > > > > 
> > > > > You aren't really. Its just a trick of the mind that you 
> > > > > believe 
> > > > > the duality- that there is something external to you. Its a 
> > > > > common 
> > > > > trick of the mind by the way; everyone falls for it at some 
> > > > > point ;)
> > > > 
> > > > I know you mean it in the nicest possible way,
> > > > but Jim, I get REALLY REALLY tired of hearing
> > > > that kind of formulation.  It isn't helpful or
> > > > inspiring.  It's my working assumption on an
> > > > intellectual basis, but it doesn't undo the
> > > > trick.  If it did, I'd have become un-overshadowed
> > > > many years ago.
> > > 
> > > See?  Attachment.
> > 
> > so say we all...
> 
> Actually, not all.  The "there is a path to enlightenment" /
> "there is something wrong with you that must be corrected
> if you're not experiencing enlightenment" paradigm is *very*
> popular, but far from the only approach.
> 
> These days I resonate more with the Ramana Maharshi
> approach.  It's more real, and in my opinion more effective
> at producing realization.  If someone in a satsang given
> in that tradition tried to claim that they'd really like to be
> enlightened but just "can't" because...  they'd be cut off
> after "because" and reminded that they already ARE
> enlightened.  After a while even the most attached person
> gets the point.
> 
> It's a little like people who are unwilling to give up a long-
> time grudge or neurosis.  They don't want to give it up 
> because they get *mileage* out of it.  "Oh woe is me...I'm
> not enlightened because..."  It's a way of getting attention
> and prolonging the non-realization of enlightenment.  If
> everyone around you stops rewarding you for whining 
> about not being enlightened, maybe you'd drop the whining
> and just realize that you're already enlightened.
> 
> That's the theory of this approach, anyway.  I've seen it work
> wonders.  And it was certainly more pleasant to be around
> than the traditional "you're not enlightened because there
> is something wrong with you" approach.
> 

Actually, I was referring to the "attachment" thing.

We ALL are attached, or so it seems.





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