Isn't he? You've got to get up pretty late in the afternoon to put one over on 'ol Empty Bill!
He's enlightened you see and just knows ALL kinds of super special stuff. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <drpetersutp...@...> wrote: > > > --- On Tue, 8/3/10, emptybill <emptyb...@...> wrote: > > From: emptybill <emptyb...@...> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is > Enlightened! > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 7:40 PM > > > You're right. The scam is revealed. Psychologists only do what they do for > the money. And the ever expanding list of pathologies is only designed to > collect insurance payments. You are so astute! > > > > > > > Peter, get real. You're showing your club bias. > These ever expanding lists of diagnostic "disorders" serve the billfolds of > therapists so they can get insurance reimbursements for their services. > If people had to pay out of their pockets then there would be a lot fewer > "mentally/emotionally disturbed" people, very few payers and a lot less > psychotherapists. > Remember the studies which showed that participants in psychotherapy > demonstrated no greater adjustment over seven years than most people just > trying to "get-by today" for seven years? > I should get reimbursements for having to read some of the cry-baby whining > complaints posing as monologues here on Fairfield Losers Forum. > > $150 per "50-minute hour" would do just fine. I'd even give a $35 discount > for a fifth of Woodford Reserve, (one bottle/month, one session/month). Of > course, I would have to put up with the thera-pee-ists complaining that I was > financially undercutting them and the corresponding credential challenges but > ... wtf, it is just business. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <drpetersutphen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 8/3/10, PaliGap compost1uk@ wrote: > > > > > From: PaliGap compost1uk@ > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Give Peace a chance/Rick is > > > Enlightened! > > > > snip > > > > > With all the talk here sometimes of "epistemology" I'm > > > surprised that "Narcissistic Personality Disorder" is > > > getting > > > such a free pass (except I think from Mr Tart Brain). > > > > > > What's *really* going on when someone claims MMY has NPD? > > > > > > It seems to me that some folks here rightly and regularly > > > point to the fallacy in seeking out "confirmations" in > > > astrological predictions (as opposed to highlighting the > > > failures). But now those SAME folks are asking us to "find > > > > > > confirmations" in some pseudo-scientific list (the NPD list > > > > > > for MMY). > > > > Calling the diagnostic criteria for NPD "pseudo-scientific" is a little > > extreme. Sure, a diagnosis of an Axis II disorder (personality disorders) > > is a little more subjective than the Axis I disorders (bipolar, major > > depressive disorder, anxiety, etc.). And certainly any knowledge, > > especially a little bit of it, can be used as a means to simply bolster > > some conceptual position. I agree, that simply labeling something doesn't > > necessarily mean anything for most people. But for anyone with > > psychoanalytic training, diagnosing someone as NPD actually means something > > beyond a label. It implies a host of developmental conflicts, defensive > > structures and interpersonal dynamics. But if you don't know this, I agree > > with you, you should just describe what you experience or call him a poopy > > pants indicating that you don't like his behavior and is no longer a member > > of your tree fort club. > > > > By the way, I don't see Maharishi as meeting the diagnostic criteria for > > meeting a formal diagnosis of NPD. He certainly had strong narcissistic > > traits, but this does make him "pathological" as in some existential > > "truth." Maharishi was a driven man attempting to accomplish a goal. To > > achieve any goal, obviously, you have to be narcissist to a certain degree. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And why? If you think MMY was unnaturally grandiose, with > > > delusions of being the bees knees, why not just SAY so? You > > > > > > already know it (believe it), so what does calling it NPD > > > *do*? > > > > > > It reminds me of discussions of abortion: If the the foetus > > > is > > > a person everything else follows: If not, it doesn't. > > > > > > Did MMY have an over-inflated sense of achievement? If yes, > > > go > > > to square NPD. If not go to square "highly creative, > > > accomplished individual". > > > > > > Then again some folks here rail against "book learning" and > > > > > > the appeal to authority that that might seem to imply. But > > > > > > those same folks seem quite happy to swallow some > > > half-baked, > > > untestable, misleadingly authorative "list" that is > > > supposed > > > to define a personality disorder (and what exactly IS that > > > > > > when it's at home anyway?). At least they do so when it > > > suits ;-) > > > > > > Perhaps books CAN teach us something. I'm thinking Orwell > > > and > > > Popper. > > > > > > "We all have personality disorders now" > > > http://www.newstatesman.com/200507110021 > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Or go to: > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > >
