Well, thanks for your reply Edg. Your early posts were remarkable. And I think I understand what you are saying. But maybe you are putting too big an onus of FFL. You have some pretty strong opinions, and a strong personality. That of course is a recipe for mixing it up here. I guess I prefer the hummingbird approach. Suck up some syrup here, and little nectar there. FWIW, I feel I have gained a lot from your posting here. (-:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <no_re...@...> wrote: > > Steve, > > The three pound rock was clearly a referent for the "glass houses" meme, and > I was admitting to my own use of such domiciles. And if someone had tossed > just such a rock at a house I was living in -- way back when -- I would have > been saved from blindly walking right into some of the worst of the crushing > events of my life. I wish someone had come forth with the sex stories before > I invested my life, my family, my marriage, my future in the TMO mindset. I > might have paused or even avoided entirely my slide down the slope to > "enabling sycophant who actively denies the gunk before his eyes." My bad > for the self-blinkering, but marauding the minds of seekers by the kind of > manipulations we've seen from the TMO can be interpreted as criminal > nonetheless. > > If someone came up to me and said, "Your child is in danger, come with me > quickly and save her," and then I come to find out they're just tricking me > into attending an Amway intro lecture, I think I have a right to yell foul. > That's exactly what the TMO specializes in -- threatening that one's very > soul is headed to destruction and then leveraging such fear to get one to pay > money to a lying guru. Jerry knew the lies, but has never admitted this -- > he didn't when I attended his lectures. Yet, try to get someone at FFL to > really lay into the bastard for his part in this fiasco....I tried and got > beat up herein for the effort. And now he's being trotted around -- a > doddering SIMS echo at best, a person trying to keep his monthly TMO hush-up > paycheck more likely. > > And, violent imagery has its place. It bespeaks the author's having reached > a conclusion that logic et al will not be used by the minds of the target > audience to escape their delusions and maybe just maybe a vile mental > construction will serve as a rock thrown. It's a theory -- not that I have > ever changed anyone's mind ever by gentle conversation or by hissing > confrontation. FFL minds seem to be, each and all, quite entrenched. I > don't know, but it seems as if no one has ever "heard" anyone else here > except that a sort of reconnaissance-listening is done to spot other's armor > chinks to riff on. > > I post cuz I'm a narcissist, and it please me to express myself even in an > empty room. My doom -- and yup, it needs a three pounder tossed a it. Care > to try? Maybe you can save my ass. Long shot that it would be. > > Willy is gung-ho for wars on the third world and yet poses as a big-hearted > pro-lifer who thinks abortion is murder. I whacked at his persona many a > time and left nary a dent. I thank Willy for that service unto me, cuz until > I tried to deal with him, I thought words had power to pierce veils of his > sort. My three pound rocks are trivial compared what I said about Willy -- > where was your criticism of my imagery back then, Steve? > > As for this babe trying to get back in the dome, what doesn't she understand > about "trying for a year to get a raja on the phone?" There's such disdain > dripping from every TMO elitist, that to try to, what?, fight your way back > into the dome? is epic self-abuse. Her example to us all is that there's > something good to be sought therein that entirely mitigates the obvious EVIL > that holds sway in the minds of the rajas when they are called to have > integrity about what the TMO does to minions. Thus she is a propagandistic > shill in the three-card Monte ruse of the TMO. > > I've never had a physical fight since I was pre-teen, and though I have > seethed and roiled and done some real-life screaming, there's been no > real-life-rocks launched by me despite undergoing experiences that would > have, by my estimate, gotten at least half of the FFLers to have acted-out > physically if they'd had to endure such challenges. I'm merely a writer has > "gotten his rocks off using naughty constructions just because he can string > the words together." I'm a coward in most regards content to yell from the > back of a crowd instead. > > To me, Willy is the perfect example of true violence, a true rock tosser, in > that he so casually accepts, say, a million body count in Iraq as, not just > acceptable collateral damage, but an outright improvement of ridding the > world of Islamists. > > There's your violent imagery. Yet here at FFL, he's allowed to spew his > racism and be treated as merely another person at Rick's Party. > > But, hey, I suggest the use of a metaphorical rock, and you smack me? Um > just askin, do you have a priority bone in your body? > > And where have I been lately herein? I seldom post now because -- and thank > you FFLers for this -- I'm finally getting it that this place is as if a > kiosk in the desert with every thumb-tacked message on it covered with the > dried loogies hawked upon it by the passersby. Every message is sure to be > treated odiously, or at best, ignored. > > Look at the conversation Curtis had with Judy recently. Did either change > their minds? Nah, all they did was use each other as an excuse to manifest > their own POVs with ever more detail. That's a good thing, I guess, to get > clear about one's conclusions by having them tested by another, but the > number of times I've seen someone herein actually CHANGE are rare indeed. > > 250,000+ posts here, and there's been maybe a few aha moments for a few, but > to have to slog through that mountain of me-memos in order to happen upon > someone actually EVOLVING here, is more a punishment than an education. > > FFL expires one's hope for evolution -- a hard truth -- when I came here I > thought I might be inspired. That's a precious lesson for me. I finally > banged against the wall enough to see my 100% responsibility for the pain of > doing so. > > Yeah, ordinary life is evolving....nanobit by nanobit -- and so FFL too can > abrade the delusional dross, but I want whole hunks of granite lopped off my > imprisoning slab by a passionate Michelangelo, and all that we have here are > chain-gangers wielding pick axes without regard for the beauty within seeking > manifestation. > > And, look, maybe there's hope for me, cuz in all the above I didn't call Turq > immoral. > > Oops, I just did didn't I? > > Edg > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" <steve.sundur@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Boy, if I wasn't just such a dupe, I'd be launching a three pound rock > > her way. I guess that's an improvement Edg, because you are usually > > recommending some form of punitive action, usually worse than this. I > > love ya, but, violence is usually a part of your solution. > > >
