--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <noozg...@...> wrote: > > authfriend wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <rick@> wrote: > >> > >>> On Behalf Of Bhairitu > >>> Yes and not only drugs but many other things or everything. > >>> Anyone who has taken some courses on the subject or even > >>> read some books on it knows that. It's the whole basis of > >>> ayurveda. > >>> > >>> Drugs like LSD are often mentioned as causing vata > >>> derangements. > >>> It sees simplistic to me. To take a more extreme case, > >>> let's say a person does a lot of cocaine, or meth, and > >>> the brain is effected not only chemically but visibly > >>> (via Cat scan). Do you think the dosha model is > >>> sufficient to explain that? > >>> > >> Let's get all Walden on this issue's ass and cut to the > >> bottom line: "Was/is the 'dosha model' EVER sufficient > >> to explain fuckin' ANYTHING, or was it always a cult > >> phenomenon, useful only when preaching to the converted? :-) > > > > I'm wondering which cult Barry believes Bhairitu > > converted to... > > > > As I said earlier, I don't believe Ayurveda can cure > > serious mental illness. > > > > On the other hand, as Bhairitu went on to point out to > > Rick, the dosha system was never intended to "explain" > > anything; it's just a classification system. It's > > descriptive rather than explanatory. The issue is whether > > it's useful as such. > > > > And of course Barry is *totally* off-base to claim that > > the dosha system has never been anything but a "cult > > phenomenon." That's just extraordinarily ignorant; it's > > difficult to believe that even Barry is *that* ignorant. > > I would consider Barry's expertise on ayurveda to be about > the same has his expertise on astrology. :-D
And a number of other things as well... I think he may have done his standard drive-by read and assumed it was a TMer talking about doshas, so he felt free to call the system a "cult phenomenon" on that basis. But not to be aware of even the most basic history of Ayurveda is pretty amazing. > As for the use of ayurveda in treating mental illness it > has probably not been explored much by convention medicine. > But my friend who is a psych professor may know if such > research is going on and he is visiting this week. I would imagine Ayurveda can be useful in a supportive role for someone suffering from severe mental illness. > Conventional medicine these days seems to come out with some > things that reflect that they've been looking at Asian medicine. > I think if clinical psychologists and psychiatrists could find > something that doesn't turn patients into zombies they would be > very happy. Not to mention their patients! > My Ayurveda practitioner was a psychiatrist and would be > able to comment professionally on this. Be interested to hear what he has to say.
