--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@...> wrote: > > > On Feb 20, 2011, at 8:30 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote: > >> > >> > >> On Feb 20, 2011, at 8:13 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: > >> > >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote: > >>> > >>> When I learned mantra-yoga from others after TM, they taught that > >>> ajapa-japa: effortless constant "non-repetition" mantra repetition 24/7 > >>> was the goal of mantra yoga. Really a fine, constant stream of > >>> mantra-as-awareness where it is never lost, never forgotten. > >>> > >>> In other words; no transcendence. > >>> Thought so. > >> > >> > >> Actually full transcendence, not stuck in a laya (TM) and merely > >> transcending part of the mind. TM would be kind of an entry level practice > >> prior to mastery of ajapa-japa. It's simply a level of practice not taught > >> in the TM Org. > >> > > > > You keep on insisting that TM doesn't get you "there," and yet, my > > observation is that TM is open-ended. The only limits are the ones that YOU > > insist on imposing... > > > > > It's really not my limitation, it's the fact that mental methods only cover > the mental aspects of a person, and the mental plane is only one part of us. > A good teacher explains this about mantra from the get-go. > > Actually it looks like Mahesh agreed with me. See Blue's comment... > I missed his comment, sorry.
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