--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut <no_reply@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, blusc0ut <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > Since we are having this discussion here about splitting > > > the mind, and the topic of Gurdjieff came up, as an example > > > of practises *not* to do in TM theory/dogma, I think it's > > > worth having a second look on it, what it actually means > > > from a proponent of Gurdjeffs teaching. It is easy to > > > misinterpret a teaching on the basis of half-knowledge > > > and hear say. > > > > Just for the record, the person (moi) who mentioned to > > blusc0ut what a TM teacher had said about Gurdjieffians > > as an example of what TMers should not do was not > > endorsing what the teacher said about them and explicitly > > expressed doubt about its accuracy. The teacher's > > Gurdjieff example had nothing to do with the point I was > > making in any case. My point was not about the validity > > of the TM teaching we were discussing, much less did it > > suggest that the Gurdjieff example validated that teaching. > > > > I'm hoping blusc0ut now understands this, as he didn't > > at first. > > > Judy, this was not addressed to you in particular.
I didn't think it was. I was addressing those who might have seen my mention of Gurdjieff without having also read my later explanation to you, after you had misunderstood the point I had been making. > The topic came up, and it interests me. I see it in the > context of my ongoing investigation of my own past > conditioning, of our conditioning I might say, and as > such I share it. That's fine with me. I'll be interested to watch the video. I believe that terms like 'splitting > the mind' are communicated and defined by such stories. > If you thought they where accurate or not, it may have > been such incidents who contributed to the whole set-up > of the TM philosophy and structure. Certainly possible, although I have the sense the rationale represented by the cloth-dying analogy and "dividing-the-mind" concept was already established in MMY's teaching by the time MMY encountered the Gurdjiffians and started using them as a horrible example. (The tape Tom described is clearly what the TM teacher I mentioned was thinking of, so it wasn't just the teacher's weird idea, it was MMY's.)