--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <salsunshine@...>
> I don't know her, but she kind of seems to have lost > her way. That was easily, IMO, the lowest point of > the whole talk. You'd think anybody with even a > shred of self-respect would kind of have some serious > qualms about getting up in front of hundreds of > people and claiming someone else was nuts. And also > claiming she knew them when she didn't. Basically, > she told a big fat whopper and then based on that > whopper, made a casual diagnosis. And this is the > kind of person you run into in the TMO these days. > Kinda makes the rajas look almost good by comparison. Bob's first response is "really?" He seems perfectly willing to entertain the idea. He then catches himself when she wants to continue and says that's enough. But this technique of claiming someone is crazy or fundamentally flawed in some way was used by Maharishi as well as his minions. Her mistake is to do it publicly where she could be seen saying it by people not fully in on the higher end justifies the means damn the torpedoes, higher purpose. Officials for the movement have said all sorts of shit about me to reporters without knowing me. Even Clinton used it against Monica. It is old school ad hominem shoot the messenger swift-boating and it is hidden under the lipservice of speaking well of others. Maharishi used to run this when he would publicly appear to not be bothered by someone or something and then with his closer people engage in a campaign to ruin them. Or as Judith talks about in her book, just leave them behind in the next move. Oh yeah, and I wrote off people who left the movement before I did and willing believed and passed on the most hateful rumors about them so that their information would get tainted by the slander. So even without some cosmic law metering out karmic justice, sometimes what goes around DOES in fact come around, so I can only laugh at myself when it happens to me. wrote: > > On Mar 27, 2011, at 10:42 AM, turquoiseb wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <salsunshine@> wrote: > >> > >> On Mar 27, 2011, at 8:06 AM, Rick Archer wrote: > >> > >>> You must have seen this clip with > >>> Bob Roth denying my book and some > >>> woman named Sandra Crow (do you know > >>> her? I don't.) saying I'm wacko. > >> > >> I thought he looked/sounded fairly > >> uncomfortable when this woman got > >> up and started dissing Judith. While > >> I didn't think much of his talk or > >> his (non) penchant for honesty, I > >> gotta give him credit for at least > >> trying to get rid of this person pronto. > >> Or at least that was my impression. > >> > >> But that's the thing: if you take a > >> stand and firmly refuse to budge or > >> even admit the other person might > >> have a point, no > >> matter what the evidence tells you, > >> sooner or later you're going to find > >> that much of your support (so-called) > >> comes from people somewhat less > >> than sane (to put it mildly) themselves. > >> That a person who came across as this > >> woman did referring to someone else > >> as crazy (or wacko or whatever) was > >> pretty funny. > > > > Isn't that Sandy (Pumpkin) Crowe, wife of > > former Western Regional Coordinator Stan > > Crowe? If so, suffice it to say she was > > both more attractive and more sane when > > I knew her. > > I don't know her, but she kind of seems to have lost > her way. That was easily, IMO, the lowest point of > the whole talk. You'd think anybody with even a > shred of self-respect would kind of have some serious > qualms about getting up in front of hundreds of > people and claiming someone else was nuts. And also > claiming she knew them when she didn't. Basically, > she told a big fat whopper and then based on that > whopper, made a casual diagnosis. And this is the > kind of person you run into in the TMO these days. > Kinda makes the rajas look almost good by comparison. > > Sal >
