--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@...> wrote: > > According to HHDL, awareness of the subtle energy of the body, and > the ability to effect it, begins once one can transcend for about > 4 hours.
The Frederick Lenz - Rama guy I worked with always said (and interestingly, so did all of the Tibetan teachers I've met) that "Samadhi is just the *beginning* of the enlightenment process." My experience, limited and beginner-level though it may be, echoes the Dalai Lama's view on this. It's only after a few hours in completely thoughtless samadhi that one begins to realize that it's not static, and that it continues "opening" to deeper and deeper levels of itself. Or its Self, if you tend to puns. :-) The Rama guy refused to teach any of his students anything he considered "advanced" until they could maintain the completely thoughtless state for several hours. That was what he considered the "brown belt" level of meditation. Working on one's "black belt" proceeded from there.
