On Mar 31, 2011, at 7:06 PM, emptybill wrote:

We've been over this before. In Buddhism, samaadhi means dharana while dhyana-samaapatti is absorption in meditation.

"Transcendence" is a western concept. In Sanskrit, the term (taraatitaa) is not officially used also (in Buddhism). Sometimes "transcendence" is used by western educated people as a synonym for Nirvana.

It would be different translations of two different words which are descriptive of the same experience of settling down in the thinking process.

The Sanskrit word for "transcendental" is "bhavatita".

There are hundreds of types of samadhi but according to Tsongkhapa they all fall under the dual classification of quiesence and insight. Furthermore you can divide quiesence into discursive meditation and stabilizing meditation. TM style meditation would fall under the classification of quiesence, of which there are hundreds of kinds.

The two are complementary, as relying on quiesence or transcendence alone, one tends to get addicted to the thought-free states and to bliss. That's why in the Dzogchen four yogas, transcendence is dropped after it's result is stable, after a couple of weeks or so.

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