The question is dude, have you ever been to the Anza-Borrego Desert WITHOUT Rama?
and if that is the case, and you continue to see "a portal with beings of light walking around in it" on a rock face, I suggest you empty the bottle, put out the roach and find a nearby motel to sleep it off...:-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jr_esq@> wrote: > > > > Barry, > > > > 1.> Whatever begins to exist has a cause. > > > > > > > > Do you agree with this premise or not? > > > > > > I'm going back to play "catch up" after traveling > > > for the last couple of days, but I'll answer. The > > > first premise has the same problem as the second. > > > The problem is not with the word "cause" but with > > > the phrase "begins to exist." > > > > > > That presupposes the condition that something came > > > into existence which had not existed before. > > > > > > I have had many experiences in my life that cannot > > > be described by this phrase. I have seen things > > > that as far as I can tell were always present. Me > > > noticing them did not cause them to "come into > > > existence." Nor did anything "cause" them to > > > happen. Therefore my own experience does not lead > > > me to believe that this is a true statement. > > > > Can you give us a specific example that presents your > > case and does not follow the statement under the first > > premise? > > I'm out in the Anza-Borrego desert, at night, > in a certain canyon I know of. Sometimes, when > I go there, there is a certain rock face in the > side of a mountain that is just a rock face in > the side of a mountain. But at other times it > transforms into a portal through which one can > glimpse other worlds, and beings of light who > live in those other worlds. > > I've caught glimpses of these other worlds in > this place maybe half a dozen times over the > years. Haven't got a clue what it means, or > if it means anything. What I find more inter- > esting is that sometimes it was a rock face > and sometimes it was a portal. Nothing I can > think of acted as a "cause" to create one per- > ception or the other. It either happened or > it didn't, on its own schedule, not mine. > > So what's the "cause" of such a phenomenon or > perception? More important, were the portals > always there, and I only noticed them from > time to time, or did they come into being > (begin to exist) only when I noticed them? > > :-) >
