I was referring to our chief proponent of dzogchen...I am sure humans are 
capable of building the richest most elaborate ritual and devotion around a 
*kleenex box* if we are so motivated. Seems to be in our DNA to transcend in 
terms of knowledge and experience, and to hold transcendence in a very 
favorable light.   

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <wayback71@...> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" <whynotnow7@> wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote:
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> > > On Jun 5, 2011, at 6:05 PM, seventhray1 wrote:
> > > 
> > > >  I mean actually what you are describing sounds like the path Vaj  
> > > > is on.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > And what do you know about the "path" I'm on?
> > > 
> > > Doesn't sound like much to be honest.
> > >
> > Doesn't look like much either to be honest.
> 
> Come on, the Dzogchen tradition, from what I could see online, looks to be a 
> very rich and old tradition, the rainbow bodies and all, with a lineage and 
> masters, structure and a variety of techniques and levels of knowledge.  Not 
> sure where Vaj fits in it.
> 
>  Thing is, all traditions of any religion including Tibetan Buddhism,  are 
> run by human beings, and so that opens the door to all sorts of behavior. I 
> guess you just move ahead and go for it and have to trust people when you 
> can, while keeping an eye open for the dark side.  And get into a tradition, 
> if possible, that also provides some moral guidelines to attempt to keep 
> folks from being nasty.  So scandal is not only in the TMO but seems to 
> infect most of these groups to some extent.
> >
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