--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" <rorygoff@...> wrote: > > (My sincere apologies to those who are receiving all of these re-edited > versions of the same post via email) > > "RoryGoff" <rorygoff@> wrote: > > > > Welcome back, Robin :- > > maskedzebra <no_reply@> wrote: > > > RESPONSE: I sense the positive and sincere thoughts you send my way, Rory, > > and I believe your doing this makes a perceptible difference to my > > confidence in posting on FFL. I refer here to their effect beyond that of > > my subjective appreciation of them. > > * * I love you, Robin, and I am glad you're here :-) > > Now you have me wondering -- what possible effect could one appreciate beyond > one's subjective appreciation? It seems a bit like the old paradox of whether > God can create a stone too heavy for God to lift. As far as I can see, > everything boils down to our subjective appreciation and awareness, even it > is only our awareness of what appears (subjectively) to be objective. > > Unless you mean something like, "their effect beyond that of my *currently > fully-conscious* subjective appreciation" -- as we may certainly be aware of > subliminal portents of something which later emerges into fuller > awareneness...? > > Anyhow, no matter, really. At the risk of repeating myself, it is good to > feel you here among us!
RESPONSE: Rory, I merely meant to say that the objective existence of those thoughts (their intrinsic metaphysical innocence as materially capable of influencing me) is something other than just your experience in sending them my way. As in the person you are is something more and other than what you can know through your own subjectivity. As in: who are you under the aspect of eternity? Who are you as God sees you?the person who created you. Your thoughts, as I experienced them anyway, tend to make me sense that they possess something that you cannot entirely trackthey, as it were, transcend you, as you know yourself. As you experience even the sending of these thoughts. Am i making any sense here, Rory? This observation of mine, whether it be true or not, is something quite apart from our respective (and differing) religious beliefs. I think the reality of a person is something that their internal subjective experience cannot entirely catch up with, or become coincident with. In my experience your subjectivity (regardless of your spiritual understanding, experience, and beliefs) exists as an element (created by God) that has a certain effect on people. It is my determination that the effect that you produce upon meor the effect of your thoughts upon meis something a little beyond your control. And in the case of yourself, what I get coming towards me seems only truly knowable to myself. Not necessarily completely known to you. This is what was behind my comment. >