They have medicines for that.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" <rorygoff@...> wrote: > > *sigh* and it seems in the end I am always only talking to myself... > > Good bye, Robin! > > :-) > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" rorygoff@ wrote: > > > > ...But if you're simply asking me if I am aware of the reverberation of multiple layers of resonant meaning in my responses, then Yes, I am; I pun with frequency and am a great fan of overtones ... > > > > :-) > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" <rorygoff@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > RESPONSE: Rory, I merely meant to say that the objective existence of those thoughts (their intrinsic metaphysical innocence as materially capable of influencing me) is something other than just your experience in sending them my way. > > > > > > > > As in the person you are is something more and other than what you can know through your own subjectivity. As in: who are you under the aspect of eternity? Who are you as God sees you?the person who created you. > > > > > > > > Your thoughts, as I experienced them anyway, tend to make me sense that they possess something that you cannot entirely trackthey, as it were, transcend you, as you know yourself. As you experience even the sending of these thoughts. > > > > > > > > Am i making any sense here, Rory? > > > > > > > > This observation of mine, whether it be true or not, is something quite apart from our respective (and differing) religious beliefs. I think the reality of a person is something that their internal subjective experience cannot entirely catch up with, or become coincident with. > > > > > > > > In my experience your subjectivity (regardless of your spiritual understanding, experience, and beliefs) exists as an element (created by God) that has a certain effect on people. It is my determination that the effect that you produce upon meor the effect of your thoughts upon meis something a little beyond your control. And in the case of yourself, what I get coming towards me seems only truly knowable to myself. Not necessarily completely known to you. This is what was behind my comment. > > > > > > > > > * * Ah, I believe I see what you're getting at, Robin; many thanks for clarifying. Yes, in one sense, I-as-creature cannot truly fathom or comprehend That One from whom and in whom I arise; I am at most a tiny wave atop That One's infinite depths. On the other hand, I am also Us, also ever and always That One's infinite depths, the utter ecstatic and dreamless peace of my own death, as it were.... > > > > > > As to having any control over others' perceptions, how they might perceive me or anything else -- I have no real control, and so I exert none. It's really none of my business. As far as I can see, we all of us deep-down essentially choose to help create our own reality, our own angel-angle for That One and our own interpretation of what IS, and we ascribe to "others" of us what parts we all will play for each other in our various versions of IS. > > > > > > Many of us appear to choose not to take any conscious responsibility for our creation, and decide (consciously or not) to position our conscious-I a little further into manifestation as a "mere" creature, and that's perfectly OK with me too. It's really all a matter of degree, and it's really none of my business, nothing I have or would wish any real control over. (Though all things being equal, I do tend to nudge Us back to Us when an "I" tires of all the dramatic weight of I-me-mine.) > > > > > > It's an interesting hypothesis -- that the reality of a person is something that their internal subjective experience cannot entirely catch up with, or become coincident with -- but it's a hypothesis which I would have no way of proving or disproving, it seems to me. The bottom line is always our subjective experience. Even when we experience That-which-is-greater, or receive corrective feedback from others, it's all still through our own subjective experience. > > > > > > On the other hand, I am of course able to agree with you that I-as-creature in no way appear to be fully aware in this moment of every permutation of every creature's subjective experience! Only am I aware of Us as we all exist in me at this moment... :-) > > > > > >
