The malice is just as great just under the guise of legitimacy probably for the same reasons greed. The right wing Republicans have a direct link to the Nazis. Look at Prescott Bush's dealing with the third Reich during WW2 (which was quashed) .the same underlying Fascism is alive and well and people better wake up to it.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "johnt" <johnlasher20002000@> wrote: > > > > What I'm saying, and I fully understand what satire and irony > > are, is that this is too serious a situation to deal with > > subtly or through sarcasm. The point I was trying to make is > > not a matter of you "doing my homework" asking you (Judy) to > > write a satire on the holocaust, but to demonstrate that with > > such a serious threat to millions neither you nor most people > > would be willing to approach the holocaust in that manner. > > You're quite right, I wouldn't. But there's a significant > difference between allowing people to die for lack of > health care, and deliberately rounding them up and gassing > them to death. They're still just as dead, but the *malice* > involved is vastly greater with the Holocaust. You can't > really satirize that degree of malice the way you can > ignorance, greed, and lack of empathy. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > > > Nobody is "making light of or trivializing" the issue in > > > question. That's not what satire does--quite the opposite. > > > Maybe this will help: satire is like mockery. Everett is > > > *mocking* those who think it's a good idea to cut Medicare > > > and Medicaid and Social Security, pointing out that > > > they're stupid and cruel and insensitive and greedy. He's > > > being sarcastic when he praises the idea. > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "johnt" <johnlasher20002000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not stupid you arrogant ***** It's just that making light or > > > > trivializing a potential genocide is what I object to. Don't bother > > > > responding if you're to stupid to get my point. > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "johnt" <johnlasher20002000@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Judy, > > > > > > Perhaps you could write an example of a satire about the > > > > > > holocaust so I can have more of an idea of how you think > > > > > > this literary form is being used, not being an English > > > > > > scholar myself. > > > > > > > > > > No, I'm not going to do your homework for you. There's > > > > > no need to be an "English scholar" to understand what > > > > > satire is. > > > > > > > > > > Did you read the Wikipedia entry I linked to on "A > > > > > Modest Proposal"? You might also read Wikipedia's entry > > > > > on satire: > > > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire > > > > > > > > > > Take a look at both of these, then if you still have > > > > > questions, get back to me, OK? > > > > > > > > > > > The number of deaths of the most helpless in society due > > > > > > to this movement by some Republicans could easily result > > > > > > in many more than 6 million deaths. > > > > > > > > > > Right. That's what the writer was pointing out. He thinks > > > > > that's a terrible idea. If you understand that he's NOT > > > > > in favor of cutting Medicaid and Medicare and read his > > > > > piece with that in mind, I think you'll quickly recognize > > > > > what satire is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "johnt" <johnlasher20002000@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The fact is, that elements in the Republican party and indeed > > > > > > > Obama are talking about cutting Medicaid and Medicare. If they > > > > > > > succeed this will have the actual effect of shorting the lives of > > > > > > > the poor, elderly and disabled as quoted in the article, and will > > > > > > > indeed lessen the expenses to the government without raising > > > > > > > taxes on corporations and the wealthy. Regardless of the author's > > > > > > > intent, which may have admittedly been to raise public ire, what > > > > > > > he's said is actually happening. It would be similar to having a > > > > > > > satire on the Holocaust which should still raise public > > > > > > > indignation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "johnt" > > > > > > > > <johnlasher20002000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not only is the Wall Street Journal involved in a wiretapping > > > > > > > > > scandal, but now they have writers suggesting the elimination > > > > > > > > > of the elderly and disabled through cutting their medical > > > > > > > > > insurance. This article was published by Market watch, which > > > > > > > > > is owned by the Wall Street Journal and Rupert Murdoch. > > > > > > > > > Unbelievable!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is NOT a satire > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John...it's absolutely a satire. As feste explained, the > > > > > > > > words "modest proposal" give it away. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read this: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Modest_Proposal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ever since Swift's essay, "modest proposal" has been a > > > > > > > > term that signals satire. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
