"This forum is like that battle in the Bhagavad-Gita."

Is that the best you can do? Let's get even more grandiose and call it, "FFL: 
Battle For Spiritual Truth And The Future Dominion Of The Universe Itself". 

or, alternatively, a bunch of fools talkin' smack.:-) 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
<anartaxius@...> wrote:
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> 
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Aug 4, 2011, at 7:46 PM, sparaig wrote:
> > <snip>
> > > > ANdrew accused me of reverting an entire section when I
> > > > first came into Wikipedia. He appolgized after I pointed
> > > > out that I didn't even know HOW to revert at that point
> > > > in time so he double checked and sure-'nuff...
> > > 
> > > Andrew is probably one of the most insightful people when it
> > > comes to � and valid criticism. It's that naked, raw insight
> > > that so disturbs �-TB's.
> > 
> > ROFL. "Raw, naked insight" unmixed with respect for accuracy.
> > 
> > > And he has a real knack for spotting habitual liars and that
> > > always gets their goat.
> > 
> > Andrew is the worst liar I've ever come across, far worse
> > than even Vaj, Barry, or John Knapp. The record is still in
> > the Google archives of alt.meditation.transcendental.
> 
> I do not know Vaj, I do not know Barry, although we cross paths here, but I 
> did meet John Knapp very briefly, more than a decade and a half before he 
> left the TM movement, and I really did not have much of an impression of him 
> then, and all I know about his 'defection' is he started trancenet, and 
> became a counselor. I found trancenet interesting. I have never thought that 
> what John wrote on that site was out of the bounds of reality.  But I cannot 
> vouch for the truth or falsehood of most of what is on the site. 
> 
> This forum is like that battle in the Bhagavad-Gita. Former friends and 
> relatives who once seemed to share the same perspective now are arrayed on 
> the battle-field with opposing views. Maybe some mercenaries have joined in 
> too. I just do not see it as black and white. There is a lot of subtle 
> variation in the displeasure with TM and the TMO. I have experienced 
> displeasure with TM on brief occasions; I never stopped and I have come out 
> on the positive side of that release. More displeasure in the way the 
> organisation behaved.
> 
> I did a cursory search and came up with an assortment on 
> alt.meditation.transcendental. Judy, you do use the term 'liar' a lot, and 
> interpolating from then to today, perhaps for a long, long time. Why is it so 
> important to use that term so frequently? If we consider a lie a bad thought, 
> or an improper way to present information (since a lie is false information), 
> we might remember that Maharishi said (something like this anyway - do not 
> trust my memory that much), a bad thought is rotten to the core. If we 
> postulate that everything is absolute being, exists because of that, then all 
> lies come from the pure field of creative intelligence. And until 
> enlightenment, our lives are a lie, a mistake perpetuated by our own mind in 
> its inability to see what it itself has wrought. What is it that gets you so 
> fired up? 
> 
> Skolnick seems to be a kind of crusader, and so do you, and you both seem to 
> be rather precise in your targets and manner of speaking. And it seems you 
> have interacted with him on that older forum, apparently not in agreement. 
> Skolnick seems rather different from Barry, at least on my initial 
> impression, but your mode of interaction seems similar. (That might not be 
> significant, because my mode of interaction with everyone is similar, so it 
> is a moot point)
>


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