--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > <snip> > > > > But more importantly doubt/no doubt has to do > > with > > > > mind. Realization is outside of mind. It is not > > an > > > > experience within any objective or subjective > > domain. > > > > > > However, mind can *prevent* realization. If one > > > cultivates a mindset of fear and trust only in > > > "authorities," IMO one can set up conditions such > > > that realization is not likely to occur. In a > > way, > > > it's like the Advaita/satsang discussions we've > > been > > > having here lately. Some people are just not > > gonna > > > do well in a satsang situation, because they're > > going > > > to react in a hurt or angry fashion to being told > > that > > > they're already enlightened. *When* they react > > that > > > way, they are effectively blocking the realization > > of > > > their own enlightenment. > > > > Notice the rather extreme irony here: > > > > On the one hand, Barry is advocating that one > > trust one's own experience rather than depending > > on authorities to validate it > > > > And on the other hand, he's telling them that > > they cannot trust their experience that they are > > not enlightened and ought instead to accept the > > authorities' assertion that they are already > > enlightened. > > > > Damned if ya do, damned if ya don't... > > Time to transcend!
I don't know if you meant that seriously or not, but "damned if ya do, damned if ya don't" was Arjuna's dilemma and "Time to transcend" was Krishna's instruction to him to reconcile the dilemma! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________ > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
