--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In 
> > > 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" 
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Judy writes:
> > > > And on the other hand, he's telling them that
> > > > they cannot trust their experience that they are
> > > > not enlightened and ought instead to accept the
> > > > authorities' assertion that they are already
> > > > enlightened.
> > > > 
> > > > Tom T writes:
> > > > The idea you are not enlightened is not an experience it is 
an 
> > idea.
> > > 
> > > <snore>
> > > 
> > > > The experience of awakening is very real, very visceral. It is
> > > > profoundly based in the physiology.
> > > 
> > > So is the experience of ignorance.
> > > 
> > > > The idea of not being enlightened
> > > > is a story. Tell me where and how that idea "I am not awake" 
> > > > is known in the gut of the physiology. Tom
> > > 
> > > That's exactly where it *is* known, of course.
> > 
> > I repeat last week's statement: "Stress is an excuse."
> 
> Did you think you were responding to a post that was
> talking about stress?

Insomuch as "stress" refers to anything that prevents one from being 
enlightened spontaneously once their body reaches full maturity, just 
about ALL the enlightened-oriented discussions in this forum have 
some reference to "stress."




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