So, you're appealing to the "The Mahareeshee says so" argument. Interesting parallel to the Bible Says So tactic: http://www.scottgbrooks.com/2009_10.html ... The notion that the universe needs an outsider observer is an outmoded corollary to the Copenhagen quantum viewpoint; but not at all necessary in the Many Worlds (or Multiverse) hypothesis as currently expounded by David Deutsch. ... Besides, if you're saying there's an outside observer, is that a Personality? or simply some aspect of the relative but impersonal? What is the nature of that outside observer and why doesn't this lead to an infinite regress (needing another "outside" observer to observe that entity, and so on;....turtles all the way down). ... The "God of the gaps" tactic is unsustainable (the notion that a "God" is needed to shore up supposed shortcomings in somebody's hypothesis). The Many Worlds/Multiverse hypothesis in recent decades has more or less supplanted the Cophenhagen viewpoint among many if not most physicists; and this viewpoint by no means "needs" an outside observer since the Multiverse is it's own Observer.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jr_esq@...> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > Matter cannot be created nor destroyed. A law of physics. > > > There's a theory called Quantum Cosmology which states that the universe > started out as a quantum wave function. MMY favored this theory when he was > alive. The theory presupposes that there is an observer in the imaginary > world for the wave function to exist. > > This wave function then collapsed or manifested into the real world as the > Big Bang. Thus, matter, time and space was created. > > > > > > But God can create or destroy matter. > > I agree with this. > > > > > > > > Steven Hawking's statement may have been the most profound thing he has > > said in his career. > > IMO, it's very dumb, or that he just made it to sell his books. In that > regard, he may be shrewd. > > > > He should resign for having an opinion that is different than someone else?? > > Yes, for the reasons given above. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jr_esq@> wrote: > > > > > > This article is insightful. Hawking is past his prime. He should resign > > > from his tenured position in Oxford or whatever university he is > > > associated with. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" <rick@> wrote: > > > > > > > > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1308599/Stephen-Hawking-wrong-You- > > > > explain-universe-God.html#ixzz1cMJFSYon > > > > > > > > > >