Heart only feels whereas intellect tries to analyze it. So if you feel good and 
your intellect says endorphins - there's no dichotomy. You can enjoy both. 
Usually people try to deny or suppress - no need to.


On Nov 3, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Denise Evans <dmevans...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I like to tell myself I'm meditating when I'm swimming...breath in, breath 
> out for 20-30 minutes....everything else falls away as the focus in water is 
> making sure one can breathe.  It does leave me in a deeply relaxed 
> place...but I figure those are the endorphins kicking in :) 
> 
> From: Sal Sunshine <salsunsh...@lisco.com>
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 3:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Siddha Medicine , Navapashanam & Healing
> 
> On Oct 31, 2011, at 2:26 PM, Denise Evans wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I still fail to understand what is it about TM that is so special that it 
> > cannot be divulged without payment.
> 
> Nothing.  You get a "mantra" which in ™ is the name
> of some Hindu god or goddess, and repeat it over and
> over during your 20-minute meditation, coming back to
> it whenever your mind strays, which is often, because
> it's usually pretty boring doing this.  It's supposed to
> provide what TMers call "deep rest."  This is deeper than
> your average garden-variety rest, because they say so
> and what more proof do you need?  Seriously, there have
> been some studies but most have to shown to have been
> fixed in some way.  If you want a list of the ™ mantras,
> they're available somewhere on the Web.
> 
> >  If the TMO is trying to change the world and they are truly sincere in 
> > this, why is it all a big secret?  Why is the "technique" so secret?  Why 
> > isn't it in a book?
> 
> Because they could make more $$ in the old days
> by keeping it secret, silly.  Of course you can
> learn it from a book.  Only self-important pompous
> fools would try to convince you you needed to shell 
> out a huge amount of $$ to learn a "secret word."  
> Don't believe 'em, Denise. 
> 
> >  Or is it?  Why has no one breached the secrecy?  Who the fuck are all of 
> > you super secret special meditators that you are keeping this big elephant 
> > in the living room a secret?  Protecting your investment?  How 
> > self-centered is this?  Why wouldn't the TMO release the secret, or for 
> > that matter, anyone who has the secret, and really test the hypothesis that 
> > they can change the world?  It reeks of BS.
> 
> Plenty of people have breached the secret, and I'm pretty sure
> you can find it on the Web.  Pick whichever mantra appeals to
> you, sit down and repeat it for 20 minutes, coming back as 
> necessary, and voila.  You're a meditator.  
> 
> Sal 
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