Have you tried ping pong, Vaj?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@...> wrote:
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> On Nov 5, 2011, at 3:59 PM, maskedzebra wrote:
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> > The issue is very simple: you lied about that episode. You lied consciously
> > and cunningly.. There is not a single thing you said (in that original post
> > of yours that Judy posted here last night) that bears any correspondence to
> > the truth. VAJ: WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS? You are making a spectacle of
> > yourself. Fly here through your BuddhismI am at Starbucks at Bloor and
> > Bedfordand we can talk. But if you can't levitate yourself all the way to
> > Toronto, then you also can't keep insisting there is a particle truth in
> > what you say about me.
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> I wouldn't get so worked up about it R. What I said was true to those who
> were present and knew what was going down. If I had a magic wand that could
> have changed the past, I'd leave it just the way it was. Verification,
> discrimination and recognition can be very context dependent. In the
> aforementioned case you're lamenting so much about, over the spilled milk of
> decades gone by, that context has come and gone. It need not be repeated.
> We've all moved on.
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> You should too.
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> > There is a difference, there really is, Vaj, between what we imagine in our
> > minds to be true (if only it was) and what goes down in reality. You have
> > thought to make of your desires the equivalent of having been realized in
> > actual space-time-causation; whereas those desires and fantasies remain
> > only true in your imagination. You know this. You habitually succumb to
> > this Walter Mittyism-Pinocchioism. I suppose, having read these most recent
> > posts of yourself, you have no control over this. This is a pity.
> >
> > Now if you ever said anything to me by way of showing me I was not seeing
> > reality as clearly as you wereand you acted upon this decisivelythen you
> > should possess the legacy of this event such as to confront me here, now in
> > all that I say.
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> It's all old news for me I'm afraid. That time has long passed. I'm sorry
> it's still lamentable for you, but I've moved on.
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> >
> > I don't sense your methodology of revealing the truth of me working for
> > you. Your technique is powerless, and it is ridiculous. It has never
> > influenced anything or anyone inside the universe and you know it.
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> Spontaneous koans are, as I've already said, quite contextual. It's clear you
> need to hear what it was I did that night, and there's nothing I'm going to
> say - indeed in order to do I'd have to reformulate my mindset of 1985 (or
> whenever it was) and hope I was conveying something still worth hearing - to
> ears capable of hearing.
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> In your case i already know they'd fall on death ears. It would seem that
> asuriac gurus beget similar asuriac qualities, even if they're not direct
> carbon copies. You have a very big ego. Still.
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> > I'll be sitting right by the front entranceand I will be remaining here
> > for only the next five minutes. So be quick. Hot chocolate's on me.
> >
> > And then we can discuss your Buddhism in earnest.
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> Certain things are better lived than talked about.
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