OK Yifuji you bring your Ramana and we will approach an average Joe, say Joe 
the plumber.

We will show him Ramana, the sickly, clearly starving, lifeless, life 
abnegating guy that any beautiful girl will be obviously be disgusted at.

Then we will have Ravi Yogi, the fun playful, enjoying life, totally at ease at 
a nightclub or temple, with a beautiful girl in tow.

Let your Ramana do his magic and I will do mine.

Let's see who Joe the plumber chooses, the pathetic Ramana or the playful Ravi.

P.S - So when are you moving to India, to enjoy the poverty, the heat, the dust?

I'm starting a citizen exchange program, all pacifist liberal commies to be 
exchanged for fun, American loving wannabe materialistic yogis and  yoginis. 
Absolutely free of cost for the lazy utopian liberals, smelly, never ever 
bathed bums quite welcome as well.


On Nov 8, 2011, at 10:05 PM, Ravi Yogi <raviy...@att.net> wrote:

> So what are those categories Yifuji?
> 
> Let me know soon otherwise I will have to categorize 1 to 6 either as freaks 
> or frauds.
> 
> On Nov 8, 2011, at 9:42 PM, "Yifu" <yifux...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>>  
>> sorry...this essay doesn't make much sense, in view of 1. Ramana Maharshi, 
>> 2. SBS, 3. Nityananda, Guru of Muktananda, 4. probably Jesus although nobody 
>> knows for sure. 5. St. Paul, 6. countless others.
>> ...
>> Your categories are not all-inclusive since you say "neither impotent, nor 
>> sexually repressed". There are more categories than that.
>> ...
>> http://www.onelittleangel.com/wisdom/quotes/ramana_maharshi.asp#pic
>> 
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi <raviyogi@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > Don't bother John.
>> > 
>> > I will explain it since I'm a yogi, who's neither impotent nor sexually 
>> > repressed.
>> > 
>> > A yogi is full of sexual energy, totally aware of it, consumed by it, 
>> > internalizing the fantasies, the guilt, the shame.
>> > 
>> > After all no impotent man has ever been enlightened. Are you impotent John?
>> > 
>> > He, by the grace of the existence and his own intelligence doesn't try to 
>> > repress the energy and spend the rest of the life fantasizing on others, 
>> > condemning every modern woman as a slut or condemning every famous person 
>> > who talks about sex as morally depraved playboy.
>> > 
>> > He is intent on healing, integrating and balancing his own tremendous 
>> > sexual energy. His knows it to be absolute vital energy, the fuel for 
>> > Mother Kundalini. 
>> > 
>> > Not perverted like the Judeo Christian fundamentalists, not perverted like 
>> > the Gandhian Hindus, not perverted like the celibacy worshipping Buddhists 
>> > turned closet abusers.
>> > 
>> > On Nov 8, 2011, at 6:30 PM, Ravi Yogi <raviyogi@...> wrote:
>> > 
>> > > Yeah I never heard of that, so news to me, as far as I know he had one 
>> > > girl friend - Vivek, that stayed with him. If he did I wouldn't agree 
>> > > with it all. Even tantra requires one partner, he said as much as well.
>> > > 
>> > > Based upon your posts you seem to be pretty sexually repressed. Are you 
>> > > a conservative? Judeo-Christian conditioning perhaps? Or perhaps from a 
>> > > conservative culture outside of US - Indians are big hypocrites with 
>> > > sex, Hispanics, Blacks are very conservative as well.
>> > > 
>> > > Why do you guys always have perverted fantasies about other people's 
>> > > sexual lives? 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > On Nov 8, 2011, at 6:13 PM, "John" <jr_esq@...> wrote:
>> > > 
>> > >> 
>> > >> Osho was into tantra to get enlightened. As such, he enjoyed having sex 
>> > >> with women in his ashram without getting married to them. He said that 
>> > >> his parents did not approve of his chosen path.
>> > >> 
>> > >> Osho's parents preferred that he had chosen the traditional life paths 
>> > >> available in India. That is, you either get married or become a 
>> > >> celebate monk in the Himalayas or an ashram.
>> > >> 
>> > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi <raviyogi@> wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I have no clue what his path is.
>> > >> > 
>> > >> > Can you please summarize?
>> > >> > 
>> > >> > 
>> > >> > On Nov 8, 2011, at 5:01 PM, "John" <jr_esq@> wrote:
>> > >> > 
>> > >> > > It sounds like you agree with Osho's path to enlightenment.
>> > >> > > 
>> > >> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi <raviyogi@> wrote:
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > Loser gurus have been ashamed of their sexuality for the fear of 
>> > >> > > > their followers, this mad yogi has no such qualms..
>> > >> > > > 
>> > >> > > > 
>> > >> > > > On Nov 8, 2011, at 3:46 PM, Ravi Yogi <raviyogi@> wrote:
>> > >> > > > 
>> > >> > > > > Ha !! I don't know - John may be right, but I wasn't going to 
>> > >> > > > > let him go unanswered because I want enlightenment and sex too. 
>> > >> > > > > Trust me I would rather masturbate than make poor choices in 
>> > >> > > > > beauty, style, morals and ethics than Maharishi.
>> > >> > > > > 
>> > >> > > > > 
>> > >> > > > > On Nov 8, 2011, at 3:25 PM, obbajeeba 
>> > >> > > > > <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>> > >> > > > > 
>> > >> > > > >> 
>> > >> > > > >> Excellent and brilliant from the Sun Yogi!
>> > >> > > > >> HOw can anyone dispute that statement??? Nada.
>> > >> > > > >> 
>> > >> > > > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi <raviyogi@> 
>> > >> > > > >> wrote:
>> > >> > > > >> >
>> > >> > > > >> > LOL..John, so an enlightened person cannot like other 
>> > >> > > > >> > mortals have sex without getting licensed from the 
>> > >> > > > >> > government and/or the priests.
>> > >> > > > >> > 
>> > >> > > > >> > So you seriously believe and think he said that 
>> > >> > > > >> > enlightenment, which is free from bondage, free of cause and 
>> > >> > > > >> > effect now needs approval is not so?
>> > >> > > > >> > 
>> > >> > > > >> > 
>> > >> > > > >> > On Nov 8, 2011, at 11:02 AM, "John" <jr_esq@> wrote:
>> > >> > > > >> > 
>> > >> > > > >> > > IMO, he's saying there's nothing wrong with having sex 
>> > >> > > > >> > > with your wife. You can be enlightened even if you're 
>> > >> > > > >> > > married.
>> > >> > > > >> > > 
>> > >> > > > >> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi 
>> > >> > > > >> > > <raviyogi@> wrote:
>> > >> > > > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > >> > > > Beautiful, I was very curious. He didn't disappoint me 
>> > >> > > > >> > > > at all :-)
>> > >> > > > >> > > > 
>> > >> > > > >> > > > There is lust, no pain, no suffering.
>> > >> > > > >> > > > 
>> > >> > > > >> > > > There is anger, there is no pain, no suffering.
>> > >> > > > >> > > > 
>> > >> > > > >> > > > Lust or sex is purely a biological need, like hunger 
>> > >> > > > >> > > > though obviously not so often :-). Like he says just 
>> > >> > > > >> > > > animal like, there is no question of possession, no 
>> > >> > > > >> > > > question of getting consumed by it, no shame, no guilt, 
>> > >> > > > >> > > > ergo no pain or suffering.
>> > >> > > > >> > > > 
>> > >> > > > >> > > > 
>> > >> > > > >> > > > On Nov 7, 2011, at 8:58 PM, "John" <jr_esq@> wrote:
>> > >> > > > >> > > > 
>> > >> > > > >> > > > > Shri Bhagavan explains.
>> > >> > > > >> > > > > 
>> > >> > > > >> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WnjTclRBnI&feature=related
>> > >> > > > >> > > > > 
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