Right.. Not the linguistic origins, scriptural authority or caste but the pure shakti infused by a self realized master.
Personally mantra chanting made me sleepy and bored, so even though I got a mantra from my Guru during my first meeting upon the insistence of my ex I never chanted it for too long and discontinued it soon after. On Nov 28, 2011, at 7:28 PM, "Yifu" <yifux...@yahoo.com> wrote: > right...; the essential workability criterion ime is the Shakti that enlivens > the mantra; not linguistic origins. However, not all people report on this > property. I've been initiated into other mantras but none of them have much > power, compared to my TM mantra. > ... > The fact that Shakti can be attached to mantras or (other things such as > buildings) is somewhat magical to me; not in the sense of violating natural > Laws, but simply manifesting as unknown laws. Maybe somebody will discovery a > Law for levitation. > ... > "Smooth": > http://features.cgsociety.org/newgallerycrits/g37/268137/268137_1196735282_large.jpg > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69" <shukra69@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69" <shukra69@> wrote: > > > > > > by this Vag would have all the commonly used Buddhist mantras as spoiled > > > mantras as they come from non-Brahmins and have been given to more than 6 > > > ears... this is the worst most destructive and discriminatory form of > > > caste-ism but he is happy to propagate it if he thinks it suits his sick > > > purpose. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Spoiled mantras > > > > > > > > H.H. Jagadguru Swami Swaroopananda, Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math > > > > interviewed by David Sieveking > > > > > > > > Translator: When he did the TM course of Mahesh Yogi he was asked to > > > > pay $2500. He was then seated in front of Gurudev's photo and given a > > > > mantra. He wishes to know Shankaracharyaji's thoughts on this... > > > > > > > > Tell him your mantra... > > > > > > > > David: Shring. > > > > > > > > Translator: Shring? > > > > > > > > David: Shring...they say it is the meaningless word but I found out > > > > that it invokes... > > > > > > > > > > > > Translator: How do you spell it? > > > > David: I'll write it for you... > > > > > > > > 2nd translator: He has also been told that the mantra has no meaning > > > > and that he simply has to recite it [mentally]. > > > > > > > > HH Swarupananda: This is not a mantra. Had it been Shrim i.e. S-H-R-I- > > > > M, then it would have been a mantra. > > > > > > > > Translator: He was given this mantra in front of Gurudev`s photo. So > > > > he wants to know whether this has been the tradition from long time ago? > > > > > > > > HH Swarupananda: Mahesh Yogi was not a brahnman and hence did not > > > > have the right to give anybody any mantra's hence he would place the > > > > Gurudev's picture so as to symbolise that the mantra was being given > > > > through Gurudev. > > > > > > > > The tradition is such that the mantra is a very private and secretive > > > > conversation between a Guru and a disciple. It is said that when it > > > > goes in 6 ears the mantra's powers are lost...it has to remain in > > > > between the two ears of the Guru and the two ears of the Shishya or > > > > disciple any other person is not to be party to it. > > > > > > > > 2nd translator: First of all this mantra was not a mantra. The > > > > procedure for giving it was a guru can give it to the shishya but as > > > > Maharishi was not a brahman maybe he was keeping a picture of Gurudev > > > > to give the mantra...but according to tradition it has to be between > > > > the 2 ears of yours and the two ears of Guru, if it goes to six ears > > > > [i.e. via a TM teacher] then its a spoiled mantra. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jai Guru Dev > > > > > > > > > > >