--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@...> wrote:
>
> 
> On Nov 10, 2011, at 5:43 AM, cardemaister wrote:
> 
> > Sorry, but that seems like rubbish to me. IMO, the basic
> > element of that category of biija mantras seems to be
> > 'agni' read backwards: 'inga'. If the first/final a-sound
> > is only implied, like in 'agni' (agniH/agnim/agninaa, etc)
> > for some sandhi positions,([a]gni/ing[a]), it might make that basic  
> > element even more effective?? :o
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/164856
> 
> And meaning is vitally important, the idea of "meaningless sounds" is  
> quite simply, a lie.
> 
> One of my favorite mantra dictionaries is the Mantrarthabhidanam from  
> the Varada Tantra. It's first verse quotes Shiva, directly  
> communicating to his counterpart, Parameshsvari:
> 
> "Sri Shiva said: Listen Oh Parameshsvari! Now I shall describe to you  
> the meaning of Mantras. In the absence of any knowledge of which no  
> one can get siddhi, even with a million sadhanas."
> 
> Pretty clear, huh! What makes it so special is the clarity with which  
> it describes the TM mantras.
> 
> For example, another level of the TM mantra "Shreeng" is "Sa (the  
> first letter) indicates Mahalakshmi, Repha (the guttural whirring of  
> the "R-sound")

OMG! Must admit I've never heard or read that repha is a
*guttural* sound! Just tried it, sounds to me like I'm
extremely angry when I pronounce it! There's something
in it that reminds me of Siberian shamans and mammoth hunters... ;-)

At least here in Finland people pronounce the r-sound like
that when they imitate badly alcoholized people... :o

repha   m. a burring guttural sound , the letter %{r} (as so pronounced) Pra1t. 
S3rS. ; a word BhP. ; (in prosody) a cretic ($) Pin3g. ; passion , affection of 
the mind L. ; mfn. low , vile , contemptible L. (cf. %{repa}).




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