--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69" <shukra69@...> wrote:
>
> by this Vag would have all the commonly used Buddhist mantras as spoiled
> mantras as they come from non-Brahmins and have been given to more than 6
> ears... this is the worst most destructive and discriminatory form of
> caste-ism but he is happy to propagate it if he thinks it suits his sick
> purpose.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote:
> >
> > Spoiled mantras
> >
> > H.H. Jagadguru Swami Swaroopananda, Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math
> > interviewed by David Sieveking
> >
> > Translator: When he did the TM course of Mahesh Yogi he was asked to
> > pay $2500. He was then seated in front of Gurudev's photo and given a
> > mantra. He wishes to know Shankaracharyaji's thoughts on this...
> >
> > Tell him your mantra...
> >
> > David: Shring.
> >
> > Translator: Shring?
> >
> > David: Shring...they say it is the meaningless word but I found out
> > that it invokes...
> >
> >
> > Translator: How do you spell it?
> > David: I'll write it for you...
> >
> > 2nd translator: He has also been told that the mantra has no meaning
> > and that he simply has to recite it [mentally].
> >
> > HH Swarupananda: This is not a mantra. Had it been Shrim i.e. S-H-R-I-
> > M, then it would have been a mantra.
> >
> > Translator: He was given this mantra in front of Gurudev`s photo. So
> > he wants to know whether this has been the tradition from long time ago?
> >
> > HH Swarupananda: Mahesh Yogi was not a brahnman and hence did not
> > have the right to give anybody any mantra's hence he would place the
> > Gurudev's picture so as to symbolise that the mantra was being given
> > through Gurudev.
> >
> > The tradition is such that the mantra is a very private and secretive
> > conversation between a Guru and a disciple. It is said that when it
> > goes in 6 ears the mantra's powers are lost...it has to remain in
> > between the two ears of the Guru and the two ears of the Shishya or
> > disciple any other person is not to be party to it.
> >
> > 2nd translator: First of all this mantra was not a mantra. The
> > procedure for giving it was a guru can give it to the shishya but as
> > Maharishi was not a brahman maybe he was keeping a picture of Gurudev
> > to give the mantra...but according to tradition it has to be between
> > the 2 ears of yours and the two ears of Guru, if it goes to six ears
> > [i.e. via a TM teacher] then its a spoiled mantra.
> >
> >
> > Jai Guru Dev
> >
>
