--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On Aug 15, 2005, at 9:25 AM, Peter wrote:
> 
> >
> > --- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On Aug 15, 2005, at 2:26 AM, Peter wrote:
> >>
> >>> All this crap about lineages is absurd.
> >>
> >> So you'll be leaving out the invocation of the
> >> lineage next time you
> >> initiate someone?
> >>
> >> THAT would make an interesting study...those who got
> >> the initiation
> >> WITH the lineage invocation, those who got it
> >> WITHOUT.
> >
> > Not when it's used that way. What I'm talking about is
> > the use of a spiritual lineage as a waking state
> > concept used to validate or invalidate a teaching.
> > It's useless it that sense and just creates spiritual
> > materialism
> 
> I think it probably depends who and what we are talking about. In 
some 
> cases the guru yoga and the effectiveness of the transmission rely 
on 
> the lineage tree for flow of blessings and maintaining the live 
wire of 
> the teaching. It is also what helps the student BECOME the guru 
rather 
> than remaining as "student" still hanging around the teacher year 
after 
> year after year. While many may boo-hoo lineage, there is nothing 
more 
> helpful than being assisted by those who came before you.
> 
> I know for a lot of teachers, the invocation is important for them. 
> It's the morphogenetic field behind the teaching.


MMY has always saidthat the puja is primarily for the teacher...





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