And Bob may have gone over the line in defending me, but it was because of his love for me, trusting I would never have any ill will towards anyone and not because any malice towards Raunchy or Alex. And that should be quite clear in his posts to Alex and Raunchy.
On Dec 10, 2011, at 11:23 AM, Ravi Yogi <raviy...@att.net> wrote: > To add - Bob wasn't even there in May 2010 and he didn't read all my emails > because I had them deleted here by Rick and on the mail archive because it > contained lot of personal references to others including my ex. > > He could have come to different conclusions if he had all this information. > So it's purely hypothetical to judge Bob on this account. > > Thank you, > Ravi > > On Dec 10, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Ravi Yogi <raviy...@att.net> wrote: > >> >> Dear Judy, raunchy, >> >> I wouldn't judge Bob too harshly. There was the performance artist there as >> well, even as there were serious elements missef by everyone but Judy. My >> stories with links to Jefferson city mental hospitals were all done to >> confuse people on this list. I know Steve was hurt by it all because I made >> up a story on how I was on way to St. Liuis to meet him and ended up in >> Jefferson City. >> >> I have clarified and apologized to Steve, though he may have not been >> convinced. >> >> But Judy, yes I have respected you since you were the only person to detect >> how I was losing it, I liked the way in which your clear intellect parsed my >> final emails, detecting my psychosis, which ended being the vehicle through >> which my body, mind, intellect and ego transitioned and integrated this >> energy. >> >> Yeah sorry for all this bullshit but as hard as it may sound it was not my >> choice eventhough I participated with total zest. >> >> >> >> On Dec 10, 2011, at 10:42 AM, "authfriend" <jst...@panix.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchydog@...> wrote: >>> > >>> > I didn't get the July message until you sent it to me today. >>> > So it wasn't a hoax after all? He really was crazy for awhile? >>> > He really wasn't faking it? >>> >>> Right. >>> >>> > Sorry, my bad. He said he admitted >>> > himself to a psychiatric hospital but didn't go. What was that >>> > about? >>> >>> Not sure; he'll have to explain that one. Seems to me it >>> was a response to our being so worried about him, but what >>> he intended to accomplish by it, I don't know. >>> >>> > He told Bob it was a surprise to him that I thought he >>> > was suicidal. I thought his denial meant that it was all a big >>> > act. If it was an act, he fooled you. If it wasn't an act, he >>> > didn't fool you. >>> >>> Yeah, it wasn't an act. I think he understands now where >>> you got the idea. >>> >>> > It puts me in quite a quandary because I got a lot of flack >>> > from Bob for telling Robin about Ravi's meltdown last year. >>> >>> Bob has been *way* out of line in his posts to you, IMHO. >>> >>> > When Bob told me Ravi was a performance artist, I took that >>> > to mean Ravi's meltdown last year was all a hoax. Now you >>> > tell me it wasn't an act. Fuck it. I'm sorry for stepping >>> > into Ravi's shit. >>> >>> It's understandable that you got confused. If Bob thinks >>> Ravi's meltdown last year was just a performance, *he's* >>> confused. >>> >>> > I'm sorry for all the bullshit on all sides >>> > of the story. Fuck it. >>> >>> Seems to me Ravi is sorry too and is doing his best to >>> clarify, apologize, and make amends. >>> >>> > >>> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: >>> > > >>> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchydog@> wrote: >>> > > <snip> >>> > > > I found the thread for May 2010, by searching Rick's posts. >>> > > > I read a few of them just enough to know you even fooled Judy, >>> > > > which is really quite an accomplishment. The thread starts >>> > > > here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/247869 >>> > > >>> > > Excuse me, in what sense did Ravi "fool" me, raunchy? >>> > > >>> > > He's acknowledged that he was *psychotic* during those >>> > > few days: >>> > > >>> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/282658 >>> > > >>> > > We were right to be concerned. He wasn't "crying wolf," he >>> > > was genuinely freaking out. But he did not, to the best of >>> > > my recollection, ever actually threaten suicide. >>> > > >>> > > The worst of those posts are now gone from the archive, >>> > > by the way (both Yahoo's and the Mail Archive). Either Ravi >>> > > or one of the moderators deleted them at some point. >>> > > >>> > > One of the reasons I'm pretty confident he didn't threaten >>> > > suicide was that I emailed Rick privately during that time >>> > > to express my concerns, and I called Rick's attention to >>> > > Ravi's having mentioned several times the possibility of >>> > > dying. *I* said I thought that might indicate he was >>> > > thinking of suicide, but it wasn't an explicit threat. He >>> > > was in such psychic turmoil it may well have seemed to him >>> > > that he was dying. >>> > > >>> > > He wasn't trying to "fool" anybody that he was in a bad >>> > > way. He *was* in a bad way. Thank God he came through it. >>> > >
