Check your sent messages....this thread has evolved in many directions, 
including one that you chimed in on that has absolutely nada to do with the 
original letter written by Robin.  



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> From: emptybill <emptyb...@yahoo.com>
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 3:20 PM
>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi 
>Chivukula
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>How about this challenge.
>
>You, Barry and Emily stop highjacking this thread and make one of your
>own.
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>Barry can then promote his "there is no truth but opinion" and feel
>accomplished.
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>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" <steve.sundur@...>
>wrote:
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>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
>> >
>> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" steve.sundur@
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > This is along the lines of something I was thinking about as
>> > > I was driving home from more errands. For the most part, I
>> > > think Vaj does reply to his critics.
>> >
>> > And why should he? I'll wait.
>> I don't care if he does or not. But if you are participating in a
>forum
>> like this, (or especially this forum), then you are going to be
>> challenged. And if you feel that the person or persons making the
>> challenge are sincere, even if they may be harsh, then I would think
>you
>> would want to respond. Otherwise you may appear as though you don't
>> have the wherewithal to back up your claims or opinions. But as far as
>> I'm concerned he has no obligation to respond to any challenge. People
>> will draw their own conclusion about what motivates people here. I
>will
>> have to read the rest of this post later. Thanks.
>>
>> I think it says something about someone if they are willing to face
>> others who may want to question them about
>> > > Exceptions would be you and Jim. And because he does respond
>> > > (exceptions noted), I think those relationships have an
>> > > opportunity to change, to "evolve" even to a more friendly
>> > > ground on ocassion.
>> >
>> > I have seen little evidence of this. What seems to happen
>> > from my POV is that Vaj occasionally responds to the
>> > same old same old attacks on him, it goes back and
>> > forth a few times, the attackers believing that they've
>> > "won" something because they got him to respond, and
>> > then it starts all over again. If this is what you mean
>> > by "evolving," I leave that definition of "evolution" to
>> > you; it strikes me as being as boring and non-productive
>> > as the TM version of the word. :-)
>> >
>> > > Barry, on the other hand has chosen not to respond to anyone
>> > > he finds unacceptable.
>> >
>> > Not true. I have been very clear about who I no longer
>> > interact with, and why. I don't bother with people I
>> > no longer find interesting in any way.
>> >
>> > I have my own reasons for this, most of which I have
>> > patiently explained. None of the six people on my
>> > personal "No Fly" list can write worth a damn, none
>> > of them *ever* seem to have anything new to say,
>> > and all of them are to some extent obsessives. That
>> > is, their onscreen life here seems to revolve around
>> > "getting" one or more of the people they have developed
>> > grudges against.
>> >
>> > BORING. If you wish to waste your time on the hundreth
>> > or thousandth iteration of "Vaj is a liar," that's your
>> > business. I prefer to leave the attackers to their (IMO)
>> > petty and demeaning (to themselves), somewhat mentally
>> > ill games.
>> >
>> > > And because of that most (or at least many) of his
>> > > relationshiops here are frozen. No chance of change.
>> >
>> > With those six? Absolutely. Not one of their "one year
>> > countdown clocks" have started ticking yet. They need
>> > to demonstrate a full year of non-obsession and actually
>> > saying something new before I bother interacting with
>> > them again. (See previously-reported conversation with
>> > the psychiatrist head of a mental hospital for my
>> > reliance on this rule of thumb.)
>> >
>> > With others, I am open to being surprised, and equally
>> > open to interesting discussions, should they come up.
>> > The thing is, most of the time they don't, because (IMO)
>> > most people here are hooked on the ongoing soap opera,
>> > and don't actually have that much new or interesting
>> > to say themselves. They rather -- ahem, like you --
>> > provoke the same old tired-to-death egobattles again
>> > and again, so that they can log in and put their two
>> > cents in, as if *they* were saying something new or
>> > interesting. From my POV, I reward only things I
>> > consider to be *actually* new and interesting.
>> >
>> > Your life, and how you choose to spend the rest of it,
>> > are up to you. Talk with whomever you want, and say
>> > whatever you want. But don't expect me to chime in
>> > as if it were interesting if I don't find it to be.
>> > The non-issue of whether Vaj was a TM teacher is as
>> > uninteresting as a subject can possibly be.
>> >
>> > How many times do you have to either hear "<insert
>> > name of today's victim> is a liar and SO much less
>> > moral than I am" before you find it boring and stop
>> > encouraging it by piling on? Wasn't it OLD for you
>> > after the hundreth iteration? After the thousandth?
>> >
>> > If not, I leave you to what fascinates you in life.
>> > I have other fascinations.
>> >
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