--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchydog@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If you actually knew me you would remember my name, so you 
> > > > either know me or you don't know me, "very likely" doesn't 
> > > > enter into it. I was not a small player. And I, unlike you, 
> > > > am willing to step from behind some smokescreen, tell you 
> > > > my name, my history and I posted a profile picture.
> > > 
> > > Excuse me? 
> > > 
> > > I've been enjoying your reminiscences up to now, but
> > > these latest ones are starting to sound a tad ego-
> > > inflated, similar to Robin's himself. First, I see 
> > > not only no photo but no profile, either on Yahoo 
> > > itself or in the FFL photo section. Am I missing 
> > > something? You're just as anonymous as anyone here.
> > > 
> > > Second, it seems to me that considering yourself a 
> > > Big Player in something that was at most a tiny,
> > > unremembered splash in the tiniest of ponds near 
> > > tiny and insignificant Fairfield, Iowa is not really 
> > > that big of a deal. :-)
> > > 
> > > Like Robin himself, you seem to feel that we should
> > > remember and almost revere your experiences, when in
> > > actuality they don't mean diddley to us, because we
> > > weren't involved and even if we were *they weren't 
> > > all that important*. To you, all involved in them, 
> > > they might have seemed more important, but to me, 
> > > it's a little like the two of you are describing 
> > > going to the 7-11 for a snack and somehow treating 
> > > it as if it replicated the voyages of Odysseus. :-) 
> > > 
> > > Try to remember that most here don't have any idea
> > > what you're hinting about when you hint. If you want
> > > to say something about what it was like to hang 
> > > with RWC, say it outright. Thanks in advance.
> > 
> > Says Barry, nastily defending Vaj's smokescreen, when Vaj, 
> > who claims he knew RWC, has yet to say what it was like to 
> > hang with RWC.
> 
> Raunchy must be on the rag again. I neither mentioned
> Vaj nor "defended" him. I would fully expect that,
> since he clearly doesn't feel that anything of value
> was ever gained by hanging with RWC, that he'd have
> little to say about the subject. Were you expecting
> something else?
> 
> Awoelflebater, on the other hand, has suggested that
> "hanging with the Robster" constituted three of the
> most exciting years of her (?) life. Thus she might 
> actually have something to say about WHY she feels 
> that way. But she hasn't said it. 
> 
> I'm honestly curious. I know first-hand what it's
> like to hang with a powerfully charismatic teacher
> (although I seriously doubt that RWC could ever be
> referred to using that phrase). Even if history 
> later suggests that the individual was merely a 
> narcissist experiencing fleeting states of attention
> (and/or psychosis) and inflicting them on others, 
> filtering them through his or her own personal 
> samskaras, it can be a helluva ride. But awoelflebater 
> has said nothing about the *nature* of the ride she
> presumably paid E-ticket prices for over three years. 
> 
> WHAT made those three years exciting or interesting?
> WHAT benefits does she feel that she derived, at the
> time, and WHAT made her believe that she was receiving
> them? Did any of these perceived benefits linger, or
> persist once she was not in the presence of the char-
> ismatic teacher/speaker/abuser/con man?
> 
> I could certainly speak to such issues with regard to
> Rama - Fred Lenz. That was a helluva ride, too, one
> that I actually enjoyed for a time. I'm wondering why
> awoelflebater doesn't seem to speak about the WHY 
> she chose to follow RWC around for a while, that's all.
> Vaj never made that choice; his interaction with Robin
> (if believed) was that of a skeptical observer from
> start to finish. Awoelflebater seems to be speaking
> more from the POV of a RWC True Believer. 
> 

Vaj claims to know Robin but has never described a single circumstance of his 
interaction with him that would make his claim credible. How come you got your 
panties in a knot over awoelfle's hinting about her RWC days, while your buddy 
Vaj has done nothing but *hint* about his RWC days? The hypocrisy of your 
demand that awoelfle stop hinting seems to elude you.

> I'm curious as to what she felt there was to believe
> IN. I have certainly never seen it, either in his
> writing or speaking at the time back in Fairfield, 
> on in his writing here. So it's difficult for me to
> fathom WHY anyone would have ever "signed on" for a
> three-year hitch. Vaj is not in a position to provide
> that kind of information; she is.
>


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