did any of the quotes in question compare Clinton to Hitler or call him the worst terrorist on the planet?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > In a message dated 8/18/05 8:01:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > Take a look here, please: > > > > http://www.schube.org/Hypocrites.aspx > > > > > > > > > > Judy, I read your web site titled Hypocrites. Did you? I found > > about 14 quotes made in the national media, the rest in local new > > papers and occasional press releases, and a few were duplicates. > > I don't have time to do a really thorough check, > but I looked again; I did miss the fact that there > were a few duplicates; I didn't realize there were > two lists, one by category of Republican and one by > date. > > But after weeding those duplicates out, by my count, > there were 34 quotes from "national" media (including > television) or major big-city papers like the Houston > Chronicle and the Des Moines Register, plus three from > the Congressional Record and four from press releases > or small newspapers. > > So I'm not sure how you're counting. In the chronological > list, the quotes are almost all from the New York Times, > the Washington Post, AP, the Washington Times, and major > TV interviews, plus one from NPR; of the 38 quotes, only > nine are from other media or the Congressional Record or > a press release. > > > Out of the 14 in national media, few > > were harshly critical of the Clinton administration ,most asked > > questions or had a personal comment which should have been easily > > answered. None with the exception of maybe a few by Delay and one > > or two by Pat Buchanan took on a more critical tone. > > I think this characterization is utterly absurd, > frankly. Most of these are indeed harshly critical. > They were also all from national Republican officeholders, > including presidential candidates, not pundits or > party flacks. And the "questions" were rhetorical, not > requests for explanations or information. > > > Pat Buchanan's comments on Meet the Press dated 4/25/99 > > being the harshest. However I find it hard to even compare these > > few comments by Republicans to be anywhere close to the number or > > quality of rhetoric that we have found spewed and eagerly reported > > from the left by the mainstream national media today. > > I'm sorry, but this is *also* absurd. For one thing, > as I pointed out, the Balkans war lasted only two and > a half months, whereas the Iraq war has dragged on > for two and a half *years* with no end in sight, most > of it after Bush pranced around in his Top Gun costume > on the aircraft carrier under the "Mission > Accomplished" banner, declaring an end to major > hostiliites. > > If the Kosovo war had lasted that long, especially > after Clinton had declared victory, the Republicans > would have been apoplectic. As it was, they were > just getting warmed up. > > As to the media reporting criticism, the so-called > liberal media were mostly cheerleading *for* the Iraq > war. It wasn't until it became clear there were no > WMD, the insurgency arose, and the American death toll > began to mount, that you saw much in the way of > criticism in the media. > > > During the war in Kosovo we didn't see an organized > > effort to stop it or discredit it like we see now although the > > case could have been made and not many people wanted our > > involvement in it from the get go. > > But in the case of the Iraq war, there was a prolonged > buildup and then a major ground invasion that we knew > was going to take place; there was time to mount an > effort against it. Moreover, as ignorant as Americans > are of what goes on abroad, we knew a lot more about the > situation in Iraq than we did that in the Balkans, > partly because we'd been there before. Plus which, > we were a lot more personally involved because of 9/11, > so people were paying much closer attention. > > And there had been *very* little opposition to the > invasion of Afghanistan, virtually none from > prominent Democrats, so it's not as though folks > automatically oppose wars started by Republicans. > > In many respects the Balkans war and the Iraq war > are apples and oranges. But the *point* here is > that Republicans had no problem criticizing the > president publicly while troops were actually > fighting, but they've been screaming bloody murder > at Democrats who dare to criticize Bush while > troops are fighting in Iraq. > > I don't personally object to anybody criticizing > a war while it's going on. It's the Republican > hypocrisy I think is disgraceful. > > > The fact is we went to Kosovo based on a lie. Remember, we went > > there to stop the ethnic cleansing of the Albanian nationals by > > ethnic Serbs. > > I'm not up on the details of the war in Kosovo, so I > can't comment, except to say that I've seen complex > arguments on both sides. Again, my point here is the > Republican hypocrisy with regard to criticism, not the > case for or against either war. I'd have the very > same complaint if I knew enough about the Balkans war > to have opposed it as strenuously as I do the Iraq war. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! 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