No, you didn't "lose" and you aren't "lost" :)
________________________________ From: awoelflebater <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 7:41 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: When all else fails... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > AZ Grey writes: > > > "I would also suggest the possibility of her eating her own > > > children but that isn't credible as the likelihood of her > > > finding a male of the species to actually engage in coitus > > > with her is highly unlikely. > > > > I have noticed a number of men on this site who seem to > > use this line, or some variation thereof, when they have > > otherwise run out of intelligent things to say. It usually > > signifies they are at their wits (or lack of wits) end and > > can think of no other road to take (linguistically speaking). > > With all due respect, Ann, I don't think you're seeing > all of the possibilities here. > > One of them is that AZ was simply interested in tweaking > Judy and getting her to react. Past experience on this > forum probably indicated to him that being considered > unattractive sexually was one of her "hot buttons," and > that she'd fly into a somewhat embarrassing hissy fit > if it got pushed again. > > Also, as a woman, I don't think you "get" one of the > things that inspires a lack of sexual desire in men. > It's what I call the "repulsiveness factor." Trust me Barry, as a woman I definitely "get" that. How could I not? Men aren't the only ones who can find someone of the opposite sex repulsive. > > As an example, if in some universe I was told to bed > Kim Kardashian, there is simply no way it could ever > happen. Some find her physically attractive, but I > would never be able to get past her repulsiveness > factor. No amount of Viagra or Cialis could overcome > the repulsion I feel for her and all that she stands > for. No matter how much makeup she was wearing, no > matter how she was dressed...or undressed...there is > simply no way that I could even conceive of having > sex with her, much less conceive a child. I suspect > that if someone took my sperm and shot her up with > it artificially, my "boys" would feel a similar > revulsion and swim the opposite direction from > the egg. :-) Then I have to say my respect for you has increased a hundred fold. Also, I wouldn't want to have sex with her either. So at least we share something in common. > > Now imagine how most men would react to not Kim Kar- > dashian but a seventy-year-old woman whom they have > judged over the years to have similarly-repulsive > characteristics. Sex is just not in the picture, > much less children. I get that too, but are we judging everyone here on their bedability? (my made-up word for the occasion.) AZ is just using grade school put-downs that aren't worthy of anybody. At least not Judy or me. > > I think you're reacting the way that one of the Bene > Gesserit priestesses in Frank Herbert's "Dune" reacted > when Paul Atreides used a particular flavor of "The > Voice" on her. He spoke to her using a tone of voice > intended to psychically convey a subtext of "You are > not a sex object. You have never been a sex object. > You will never be a sex object." Suffice it to say > that the priestess did not react well. I'd like to imagine myself a priestess but other than that I'm not seeing any relationship there to my reaction. No one was talking about me being repulsive, a child eater or unable to find a sexual partner. They still might, but not so far. > > But she wasn't intended to. Paul was making a statement > of fact. Giving AZ the benefit of a doubt, he may have > simply been expressing his own assessment of Judy's > repulsiveness factor. Or he may have just been trying > to get under her skin...and succeeding. I am not sure if he got under Judy's skin, I haven't seen a reaction yet, but his standards kind of put me off. It was not the content but my perception of his intention to bring her down by claiming she is basically repulsive is, well, a little repulsive. > > Seems to me he succeeded in getting under yours as well. > You did, after all, come out of the lurker woodwork to > weigh in on this, claiming that what a man thought of > you sexually wouldn't really affect you. Yeah, right. :-) Barry, you seem to disdain people who feel things. I don't claim to be some unfeeling mechanical entity so I am happy to admit that some things I see written on this site may: shock me piss me off astound me hurt me If that means I "lost" then I lost. > > Note that you start by trying to do to AZ exactly what > you seem to be upset about him doing to Judy -- trying > to demean his worth, both sexually and intellectually. > Then you move on to trying to do the same with all men. > My bet is that AZ will read your post and -- as I did > -- laugh, without his buttons getting pushed in any way. > Might I suggest that this is something you clearly were > unable to achieve when reading his? :-) Sorry, I don't understand the question. > > "By what pushes their buttons ye shall know them." Yes, button pushing is a good technique for getting to know people. I find there are much more productive ways to do this however. Button pushing only shows you the reactive side of a person. That is never the whole story. But I love seeing passion, belief, and spirit so some reactions can be indicative of really strong people. I wonder if you know how to coax, love and caress a response out of a person. I haven't seen any sign of it yet. But I'm not waiting, don't worry. > > > First of all AZ, what makes you so hot? Second of all, > > what does having "coitus" with a man have the slightest > > thing to do with anything you were discussing in your > > post? You appear to be of the opinion that being sexually > > desirable can balance out other transgressions like > > combativeness, bitchiness or a whole slew of other > > "faults". It appears that your value of a person (a > > woman in this case) escalates in direct proportion to > > their likelihood of being frequently humped. > > Desirability/attractiveness/sexual attraction could not > > possibly be present in someone who disagrees with you, > > counters your arguments or otherwise challenges you, > > or so it appears from your comment above. > > > > Don't get me wrong, sex with men can be great but it > > doesn't define me and if I were accused of lacking > > fuckability (am I allowed to say that here?) potential > > because I were to disagree with you it would hardly > > ruin my day, or my next romp in bed. >
