Aside from all the other obvious absurdities and inadvertent ironies in this latest anti-Judy diatribe, I'd just like to remind folks once again that Barry *doesn't read my posts*.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > "By what pushes their buttons ye shall know them." > > > > > > Yes, button pushing is a good technique for getting to > > > know people. I find there are much more productive ways > > > to do this however. Button pushing only shows you the > > > reactive side of a person. That is never the whole story. > > > > I would say that the "reactive side" is very much > > the whole story. What you still react to owns and > > defines you. > > > > "It is only shallow people who do not judge by > > appearances. The true mystery of the world is > > the visible, not the invisible." - Oscar Wilde > > Ann, I'm going to rap about this for a bit, because > it's touched on the very thing that keeps me inter- > ested in this and other spiritual forums. At this > stage in my life, I find myself not terribly inter- > ested in the "spirituality" per se. Just not my > cuppa tea. But the *people* on these forums, and > the dichotomy between who and what they present > themselves to be and who and what I and others > perceive them to be, that I find endlessly > fascinating. > > With many people on FFL, I find very little difference > between who they present themselves to be and who I > perceive them to be. I think Rick and Alex are very > much what they present themselves to be, as is Curtis. > With others, I see a BIG difference. The latter I would > characterize as lacking in self-knowledge or the ability > to honestly self-assess, and so invested in the image > they are compelled to create that they can't see the > image they really *are* creating through their actions. > The provocateur in me sometimes enjoys pointing this > dichotomy out. > > I have found over time that the best way to do this > is NOT to get up on a soapbox and talk, talk, talk > about the people I feel are hypocritical, and whose > walk I feel doesn't match their talk. That's Judy's > approach, and to some extent was Robin's. They are > constantly trying to *sell* their POV to a perceived > audience, trying to get this perceived (and often > imaginary) audience to *buy* this POV, and agree with > them. My assessment of both people is that they > honestly believe that what they SAY is more important > than what they DO. > > I believe the opposite. After seventeen years of watch- > ing what Judy DOES, I don't believe a word she SAYS. > I have never in my life encountered a human being who > in my opinion has a less accurate view of who and what > she is. > > Now I could point this out the way she does, by talk, > talk, talking, and trying to *sell* my assessment of > her to others, but I don't think that's very effective. > What I prefer to do is to push her buttons and allow > her to *demonstrate* who and what she is. > > You may remember that recently I pointed out that she > is somewhat monotopical, in that she is obsessed with > a number of perceived "enemies" on this forum, and > can't go for very long (never more than a few days) > without badrapping one or more of them. I also pointed > out that IMO one of the reasons for this is that *she > doesn't have anything else to say*. > > Compare this assessment to an overview of her posts > for the last few months. How many times has she posted > anything original, or even something that wasn't in > reaction to someone, used as an opportunity either to > put them down or to "prove" herself smarter or more > authoritative, or start an argument with them? I > challenge you to watch over the next few weeks to see > if she is able to make even a handful of posts that > don't fit into this description. Only a few weeks after > my post characterizing her act on this forum as chant- > ing the Judyatri Mantra (bashing Curtis, Vaj, Sal, > myself and other perceived "enemies"), she's pretty > much back to doing this non-stop. > > I will freely admit to *encouraging* this behavior, by > posting things that I know from past experience will > push her buttons and cause her to do it. Why? Because > I firmly believe that what one SAYS about one's actions > and one's motivations means NOTHING. Nada. Zip. It's > just empty words. The *only* thing that matters is > what one DOES. > > The fascinating thing is that I've *told* Judy for years > what it is that I do here, and why I do it. And she > keeps falling for the button pushing anyway, over and > over and over. And IMO every time she does, and lashes > out angrily in reaction to something that I post (or > that Curtis or Vaj or AZ posts), she *demonstrates* what > she is, and confirms our past assessments of her or our > predictions of what she'll do next. > > Call me warped, but this amuses me. And amusement is > pretty much the only thing I look for in Judy Stein. > It's NOT as if one could ever learn anything of value > from her. She is IMO a parrot; I don't think I've *ever* > seen an original idea come from her, and don't think I > ever will. > > So *absolutely* I push her buttons, and occasionally > the buttons of others here who I suspect of being simi- > larly out of touch with the dichotomy between who they > present themselves to be and who they are, as demon- > strated by their own actions. > > I don't apologize for this. Yes, there are nicer ways > to get to know people. But for me those ways are reserved > for people I'd actually *want* to get to know. >
