Completely wrong, Vaj. Dissasociaton from the body or "rising above bodilhy consciousness" is the traditional Sant Mat "Samadhi", which has two permanent levels: Self Realization and God Realization. ... If a TM'er achieved such as temporarty state of Samadhi, this would be a rare achievement; and the goal as such "rising above bodily consciousness" is a Sidhi, not a distinct state of Consciousness in the model set forth by MMY. ... The Sidhi is independent of MMY's SOC's; and if at all was brely mentioned and not addressed in his model. ... There's no scientific evidence your Guru has attained more than Turiyatita.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@...> wrote: > > > On Apr 9, 2012, at 1:49 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Apr 9, 2012, at 12:00 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: > > > > > > > It is also certainly possible that there are > > > > different markers for different kinds of meditation. > > > > It is known that Buddhist mindfulness meditation > > > > results in an increase in gray matter in the brain. > > > > > > > > > That could be the case for TMers since TM's ideal end stage SOC is a > > > disembodied state (videha-mukti, aka "Unity Consciousness"). > > > > > > > Er, where did you get the idea that unity consciousness was somehow > > disembodied? > > > > That's a contradiction in terms, you know. > > > Yes I know. Videha means "disembodied" - transcendental dissociation > from the body might be TM-speak way of saying it. >
