Democrats with character are as rare as hens teeth...;-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchydog@...> wrote:
>
> Democrats shouldn't be too quick to pat themselves on the back and genuflect
> to Justice Roberts for helping Obama claim success for an expensive,
> inadequate bill that burdens average Americans with private sector insurance
> premiums at a premium or slap them with a tax when they don't pay it, before
> they take a look at the full import of Roberts' decision.
>
> At first, Cynical Me thought Justice Roberts sided with the majority to hand
> Republicans the talking point that Obamacare is a TAX but it's worse than
> that, much worse.
>
> "The problem for progressives with Roberts' finding that there is no basis in
> the Commerce Clause, or Necessary and Proper Clause, is that this legal
> viewpointon top of the four other right-wing justices who said they would
> have thrown out the ACA as congressional overreachsuggests that in the
> future there could be a Supreme Court majority that would invalidate other
> laws regulating the national economy such as a carbon tax to combat climate
> change, or new national energy strategy.
>
> These so-called constitutional "originalists" seem intent on not just
> upholding their extremely pro-business vision of how Congress should address
> national issuesby providing more customers for the private sectorbut they
> seem intent on taking the country back in time to before the Constitution was
> even written...
>
> Not only is the Roberts' ruling entirely pro-business, by sending tens of
> millions of new customers to insurers while limiting state expansion of
> public care, it is based on a right-wing vision of a shrunken Constitution
> and diminished congressional powers."
>
> http://www.alternet.org/news/156091/why_justice_roberts%27_opinion_could_set_alarming_precedents/
>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchydog@> wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" <babajii_99@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > > > > Welcome to black market heath care (for those who can afford it),
> > > > > providing it's not overturned; can you imagine people actually being
> > > > > thrown in jail for violating Obama's health care mandate? (Like
> > > > > getting health care under the table, you naughty boy!!)
> > > > >
> > > > > Folks.....it's no longer insurance! It's socialized medicine!
> > > > >
> > > > You are an ignorant asshole...you make statements you heard on
> > > > right-wing talk radio, that are false, untrue and just plain Bullshit...
> > > >
> > > > There is no penalty for not paying the 'Health Care Benefit'..
> > >
> > > Yes, Robert, there is, above certain income levels.
> > > But it's not much; it's less than the cost of the
> > > insurance, and there *certainly* is no threat of
> > > jail for not paying it.
> > >
> >
> > It's true. The government will enforce the mandate with a penalty tax
> > according to ability to pay. No one will go to jail or go broke. Justice
> > Roberts argued ACA is constitutional based on the government's ability to
> > levy taxes.
> >
> > It was a jaw dropping decision that surprised the hell out of me. Call me
> > cynical, but I believe it's possible Roberts is a ringer who intentionally
> > handed the Republicans an excuse to whip up fear and frothing that Evil
> > Obamacare is a TAX. He framed his decision around the power of Congress to
> > levy taxes, which serves to confirm what the Fox Propaganda Lie Machine has
> > been saying for 3 years: "Obama is a tax and spend guy."
> >
> > In fact Obama *lowered* taxes, but you never hear very much about this in
> > the media, do you? The stimulus was mostly tax cuts, the payroll tax
> > holiday (designed to undermine Social Security) was certainly a tax cut and
> > the Democrats' stupid refusal to let the Bush tax cuts expire was a huge
> > tax cut for the wealthy.
> >
> > Republicans, the stupid Borg they have become, will swear on their mother's
> > grave that Obama RAISED taxes and Omamacare is yet another TAX. If the
> > Democrats can't figure out how to counter FOX LIES and explain that the
> > mandate is the ONLY part of ACA that involves a tax penalty, and that Obama
> > actually LOWERED taxes, we are totally screwed as a county.
> >
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