--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > > --- wayback71 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

<huge snippage>

> But it really has been over 28 years since I last
> saw Maharishi, and at that time I hadn't been
> exposed to a teaching that taught you to tell
> the difference between the two energies.  So I 
> really don't know which was going down with him.
> Personally, I never experienced a great deal of
> what I would call darshan with him, period.  I
> definitely agree with the comments here this
> morning by those who did, however -- there was
> a certain swept-up-in-it-all-ness about being
> around him that was pretty fascinating, and
> still is.  
> 
> If others, having seen him more recently, have
> any comments to make, I for one would love to
> hear them.
> 
> Unc

I last saw MMY in 1975. However, soon thereafter, I had occasion to 
work with an individual legally certified as "sociopathic". (This was 
in a prision situation.) There was a similar intensity.

Sometime after this, I worked with an obsessive compulsive 
("workaholic") who also radiated a very similar intensity.

I think that MMY has too many social skills to fit a sociopathic 
characterization; but narcissistic would seem accurate. I don't think 
anyone ever missed his workaholic intensity, either. 

I can see how this sort of intensity could be mistaken for something 
other than what it was: plain old intensity of personality. His 
complete disregard for persons other than himself could also be 
easily taken for something totally different than what it was as well.

Later still, I met a genuine Zen Master* who didn't come across 
anything like MMY. I think this was the first inclination I had that 
things hadn't been what they had seemed, what I had taken them for. 

I find it very interesting to note, nowadays, how I put meaning on 
experiences and situations. Remembering these experiences has been 
quite valuable in this regard.

HH the Dalai Lama radiates no end of intensity, but it is different 
in every way from what I had previously experienced. His intensity is 
focused on the well being of everyone other than himself.

I had occasion in the past couple of years, to spend time with 
Thrangu Rinpoche, appointed by HH the Dalai Lama to tutor the young 
Karmapa. Thrangu Rinpoche exudes a very similar kindness, concern and 
penetration (words get kind of useless here). 

I think it is a matter not only of some specific learning (as from 
teachings/books) but also direct experience/interaction of a wide 
variety. It would be no problem whatsoever, having only known MMY, to 
conclude with absolute certainty that he is the real thing. 

Having met many teachers, it is now not a problem to conclude with a 
fair degree of certainty [like everything, constantly subject to 
change, of course] that MMY is in no way "the real thing". He is 
clever, intelligent, quickwitted, charismatic and widely experienced. 
This enables him to play god better than god, but doesn't make him 
the real thing.

_________
* "genuine Zen Master" -- well, what did I know? But he was highly 
regarded and absolutely nothing like MMY, nothing like I expected.

G




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