Dearest Vaj:

I have the perfect solution here. TRY IT!

Get initiated. I would be most interested then whether your theories got 
changed.

TM is an EXPERIENCE. And as Jimmy would say: "Are you EXPERIENCED?"

"Well, *I* am".

Go for it, Vaj. Just even for the first session. Then you can throw it away.

Lots of fun. Very mystical. At least it used to be.

I even taught TM. But that's a whole other story.

Your loving friend,

Robin

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@...> wrote:
>
> 
> On Jul 18, 2012, at 12:55 PM, sparaig wrote:
> 
> > The point of TM isn't to transcend.
> >
> > THe point of TM is to transcend and then to NOT-transcend.
> >
> > Again, you show a fundamental lack of understanding.
> 
> 
> So then why are you emphasizing the "NOT-transcend" part? If you're  
> lost in distraction, you're missing half of your own equation!
> 
> I would venture to guess the reason that it was never called  
> Transcendental and Not Transcendental Meditation was because the  
> latter part of your equation happens automatically but is then  
> "repaired" (by the properly practicing TMer), no?
> 
> I can also see from your description that you've probably not been  
> very successful with TM.
> 
> The actual point of TM is to transcend ALL THE TIME - and thereby  
> develop the alleged "higher" states of consciousness. If the purpose  
> of TM was actually to transcend and NOT transcend, one could never  
> reach to desired end, Cosmic Consciousness! In your model the "state"  
> never becomes a "stage".
>


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