Posts like this, bring logic to the clarity achieved in taking time to sit and meditate. :) Thank you michael jackson.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson <mjackson74@...> wrote: > > From my point of view, if the so called yogic flying was a effective as > claimed, you would see the greatest effect at the epicenter, meaning closest > to the flying group - this should mean over the years extraordinary results > in Fairfield and Jefferson County or even all of Iowa - but it hasn't EVER > happened. The TMO says that it has effects all over America but things stay > the same in the local area? TMO has consistently said "Ah, we had a great > effect cause we said we had a great effect, believe us when we say we have a > great effect and keep sending money so we can continue to have the grand > effect that we say we are having." > > There is another post here on FFL talking about the grand effect of the > MExican group that refers to how well the government organized the event, how > they brought the buses in on time - WTF!! If the Mexican government organized > the event, why did the TMO ask for donations to pay for having everyone > bused??? > > With or without a tinfoil hat, I can see these guys are wanting to continue > to ride the gravy train - I look forward to the day that Tony, Bevan and all > the rest are exposed for the frauds they are, the TMO folds, Marshys nevvies > in India raid all the Movements assets leaving the TMO in ashes and Bevan and > the boys have to make a living for themselves washing dishes or some other > menial labor job, worrying how to pay the rent and utilities like the rest of > us instead of living off the fat of the land in a global ashram paid for by > others. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "doctordumbass@..." <doctordumbass@...> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 2:43 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can anyone independently validate the claim of > 8,000 Mayan YFers? > > > Â > Merry Christmas, MJ! ...wait, lemme secure "the hat au foil de tin", prior to > responding with substance...ok, set: > > Yeah, it is tough to prove a negative. On the background of an always > difficult world, how do you show evidence that something even worse didn't > happen? As the French would say, impossible. lol > > Over the last 60 years, there has been a lot of progress and a lot of > conflict. Who to assign praise/blame to? I like the overall trend that more > people are empowered to do what they want to, globally, even though it > results these days in some terrific violence. > > Along with the potential for chaos, though, pervasive local, national, and > global, communication, is also making it difficult to maintain the obsolete > power structures of the past - e.g. the last US election secured, because of > a YouTube video revealing the true nature of the loser. And secrets of any > kind have become impossible to keep (WikiLeaks). How porous everything has > become. > > Is it the much vaunted Age of Enlightenment? Pretty obviously not, though now > that things are breaking loose, in flux and in motion, we have half a chance > in hell of getting there. :-) > > ok, hat back on wig stand... > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson <mjackson74@> wrote: > > > > I cannot dispute the numbers of flyers in India or Mexico cuz I am not > > there - I wish with all my heart the things you say would have been or even > > would be true, but the state of the world as it is is proof enough for me > > that the effect of both group practice of TM and the "yogic flying" has > > been an utter failure, not because of lack of numbers but simply because > > the stated effects just aren't there - nearly 60 years is more than enough > > time for proof to surface - it is all still just a promise of futures and I > > wouldn't buy them from the TMO anymore than I would Bernie Madoff - but it > > woulda been nice if it hadda been true > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: "srijau@" <srijau@> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 8:53 AM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Can anyone independently validate the claim of > > 8,000 Mayan YFers? > > > > > > ÃÂ > > There are more than tens of thousands of students and pundits in India and > > you will have no problem with the independent confirmation of that, indeed > > the problems of the largest private educator in India and the legal > > disputes over the land assets for future Pundit campuses have been raised > > in Parliament; as well the extraordinary successes are everyday in the > > Indian press for all to see as Maharishi Vidya Mandir students are > > constantly in or at the top of educational competitions all the time. Yes > > there was some money 'wasted" by Maharishi's way of dealing with the > > corruption of the permit authorities in India by presenting them with a > > fait accompli instead of going along with institutionalized bribery, but > > all kinds of financial safeguards including detailed reporting and close > > donor supervision of expenditure have been put in place now. > > The cost of buses meant that there could not be many Yogic Flyers to Monte > > Alban and indeed it is unlikely one could even rent that many buses on > > short notice. If there was not this many Tm-Sidhas students now in southern > > Mexico then the GCWP would be risking their credibility in terms of the > > Maharishi effect which is now claimed for central and south America. If > > crime, does not continue to fall quickly and other aspects of society not > > improve as well you would have every reason to doubt not the number of > > Yogic Flyers in education, military and industry but the Maharishi Effect > > itself. The proof is in the pudding and many outside the movement are > > already starting to comment that the pudding is tasting very sweet, satvic, > > blissful, peaceful, Heaven on Earth for all, the best Christmas and New > > Years gift ever, this time in perpetuity. > > Jai Guru Dev. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > I finally found an article on this with photos, and they > > > do nothing to eradicate my doubts about the veracity of > > > the TM movement. > > > > > > Has no one forgotten all of the claims of tens of thousands > > > of pundits or students in Maharishi Schools in India, only > > > to have people travel to the supposed locations and find > > > them empty and deserted, with no people there and no > > > construction going on? > > > > > > That was my first thought when people started to bandy > > > about the claim of "8,000" students taught the TMSP in > > > Oaxaca. I said to myself, "I'll believe it when I see the > > > photographs and can run them through crowd-estimation > > > software." > > > > > > Well, this article has photos. As far as I can tell, the > > > largest number of people in *any* of them is in the last > > > photo on the page, an estimated 300 people max. So where > > > are the other 7,700? > > > > > > http://www.mangalorean.com/news.php?newstype=broadcast&broadcastid=366529 > > > > > >
