> > With his energy being what it is it is hard even for me > > to have hard feelings towards him when I watch a video - > > beautiful words he expresses, but he really doesn't say > > much - just in essence that heaven on earth is possible > > and if we do TM it will happen... > > turquoiseb: > Duh. This is Cult Marketing 101. "If you promise > it but never define what 'it' is, no one can sue > you when you don't deliver." > If this is true, then there must be thousands of people that want to sue you in court for promising them 'enlightenment in 5-7 years' when you worked for MMY and for promoting the idea of 'instant enlightenment when you worked for Rama. When are you going to start paying for all your fibbing? LoL!
I mean, it's one thing to be a liar, but do you have to be a hypocrite as well? Go figure. Well, isn't this embarrassing - I'm explaining the HOE doctrine to a TM Teacher. Go figure. If you don't understand MMY's phrase 'Heaven on Earth', which comes from the Upanishads, then you've apparently wasted many years following MMY and the Rama Guy. Either that, or now you're enlightened and want to tell us the whole truth. All the Upanshadic thinkers were transcendentalists who taught that there is a field beyond the senses which they termed a transcendental field. All of the acharyas of Vedanta point to this state of being. "O Svetaketu, do you understand what I am telling you? This great but most essence of all the worlds is the Truth, the Atman, the Supreme Reality within you, and you are THAT" - Uddalaka - Chhandogya U. According to the Sage Patanjali, Raja Yoga has nothing to do with 'union with the gods', but has everything to do with 'isolation from prakriti', that is, the 'cessation of the fluctuations of the mind-stuff'. To Patanjali, the 'Royal Yoga' is the attainment of freedom, based on the sheer willpower of the individual. The Sage Kapila said that success in attaing freedom from suffering is found in individual willpower to knowledge; individual freedom is not the result of any source of power outside one's own body-mind. "When mental activity disappears, then knower, knowing and known become merged one into another, just like a transparent crystal which assumes the appearance of that upon which it rests." Y.S. I. 41. So, ask yourself 'who am I' and then look inside yourself for the answer, inside your own mind, and apply common sense and intelligence based on your own experience and reasoning. At present youare not making any sense! A Yogin is not bound by time, neither is he bound by the restrictions of caste or religious conventions. A Yogin, having mastered himself, by himself, does not see ritual acts as the saving grace, yet he acts, due to the propensities still functioning within his mortal coil. A Yogin is liberated while yet living, a 'jivan mukti'. Being liberated, a Yogin is not bound by the notion of duality, thinking, "I do this, this is my body, this is my soul, this is my self..." etc.