Are you talking about the Livingston Manor facility?
________________________________ From: "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" <doctordumb...@rocketmail.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 12:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re- John M Knapp - Johnny Profane + TV reviews I do not know if it still exists. Beautiful scenery, though the place was already a dump when I lived there in 1978, just after it was turned into a men's facility. There was one functional wing, and that was reserved for the Governors. I lived first in a vermin infested shack, through the snow, down by the lake, then later in a leaky and cold dorm room. We had electricity but no hot water, and for awhile there was no plumbing at all in the entire facility for flushing toilets (except in the functional wing) - awesome smell! The roofs leaked everywhere. There were big rats in the kitchen where all the course food was prepared. The "office building" was really shaky - three stories tall, and about a hundred years old at the time. I was on the printing crew, and sometimes had to manipulate a forklift with faulty brakes around the basement, careful not to knock any support beams out of place, and bring the building down on top of me. The benefits: Saw the Northern Lights many, many times, and deer also abounded on the property. I also did residence courses (4x4) every month, and rounded 2x2 the rest of the time, so it served its purpose for me. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: > > > > I recall this one, rare, time when some bigwigs were coming into La Guardia > > airport in NYC, and I was on staff at a TM facility in the Catskills. There > > were a couple of limos there, should Maharishi come to visit, though he > > never did - Anyway, I was decked out in my khakis and got picked for driver > > duty, for one of the limos. We were about 2 or 3 hours out from NYC, and > > probably got a late start, so the director, Tim, riding in the back by > > himself, told me he was going to do his [meditation] program, and > > instructed me to drive as fast as I wanted, because, "Nature will support". > > 85 to 90 mph, all the way in - lot's of fun!! > > And yet, all teachers had been told not to have someone in the car meditating > since their transcending could pull the driver's awareness off the road!! > This info was also given out in 3 days' checking, I think. All in all, > working in the Catskills might have had some benefits and fun times. The > place became a mold infested, toxic place once the roof gave way and water > leaks were not repaired. I think the town officials literally sealed off > sections of the buildings. Is it still there? > > > > Driving Movement vehicles was always a blast, like when I'd take this big > > box truck into the Bowery, or some nearly deserted warehouse in Brooklyn, > > to drop off copies of the Movement magazine. Could pretty much drive any > > which way I wanted to, running lights, double parking, as that was the > > local custom. Helped make up for the $5 a week I made, cash.:-) > > > > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Carol" wrote: > > > > > > Ha! Well, it's nice to be in the younger crowd. hehe > > > > > > I was a cherry picker and dish washer in The Way. :D I seldom got the > > > higher assignments to rub really close shoulders with the higher and more > > > spiritual leadership. > > > > > > But I didn't see the hypocrisy, like you did in the TMO. > > > > > > The hypocrisy was there in The Way, but some I didn't see because it went > > > on behind closed doors and the times I did see what *might be an > > > apparent* (barf) hypocrisy, I chose to rationalize it. After all, the > > > leadership knew what was best for the followers and always had our best > > > interest in mind. (sarcasm) > > > > > > It's a long story of course. We all have those...long stories. > > > > > > To cherry picking, strawberries, and dirty dishes! > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Barry.(and me too).lol. > > > > > > > > I have a theory back from 1981-ish when I did my last staff stint with > > > > The Movement. I had a good friend, Jack, who mentioned something, after > > > > the last bout of arrogance and power-tripping we were exposed to by A > > > > Governor Of The A Of E And Don't You Forget It, aka TM Teacher. Jack > > > > turned to me and said, "Someone must be telling these guys something > > > > [that makes them feel this way]." > > > > > > > > We were fortunate, that although the construction and farming project > > > > had a lot of Governors, aka fundamentalist overlords (though there were > > > > one or two decent ones), we were doing hard physical work that kept us > > > > grounded, and aware of the hypocrisy. > > > > > > > > So, my theory is that some of these Governors having been taught > > > > repeatedly that they were a special cadre, literally saving the world, > > > > left the Movement with big heads, and either glommed onto other > > > > authority figures, or became teachers of others, themselves. > > > > > > > > This is apparently still an issue for some, after so many years, either > > > > feeling as some do, that their true position above others continues to > > > > go unrecognized (name, here, starts with a T and ends with a B), or > > > > continuing to struggle against that once lofty position. > > > > > > > > T...B commented that one of the posters here was a bigot, because he > > > > followed a bigot, T...B not recognizing that he went a lot further in > > > > his allegiance to the so-called bigot, becoming a Teacher of his, than > > > > the person he criticized. More examples abound. > > > > > > > > So, I ask myself - what makes someone willfully blind? Obviously having > > > > been told wondrous and powerful things about oneself is very > > > > intoxicating. The ego revels at such an opportunity to make this the > > > > core of the mind's life story. This is the trap for the Teachers of TM > > > > who chose to leave the teaching, but retained all the wonderful and > > > > inspiring things said about them. > > > > > > > > Glad I was always washing dishes, or planting strawberries...:-) > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Carol" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hey doc... > > > > > > > > > > Younger than whom? :D > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************ > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it because Carol is apparently a younger woman, and thinks you > > > > > > are full of it, which drives you nuts-o, or is there actually more > > > > > > to this?? IMO, I don't think so... > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This one thread, devoted to documenting how awful a person > > > > > > > > John Knapp is, is becoming very tedious. Perhaps Carol could > > > > > > > > find something else to obsess on. I am no fan of John Knapp, > > > > > > > > but I imagine that he had good intentions to begin with. > > > > > > > > Then something went wrong and perhaps he didn't cope with > > > > > > > > it well, and that led to something else, and so on. It's > > > > > > > > time to leave this guy alone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, like that's gonna happen. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This place is like heaven on earth for cyberstalkers, > > > > > > > especially if the stalkee is male, and *very* especially > > > > > > > if a number of people hold a grudge against him anyway > > > > > > > for his feelings about TM and Maharishi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This particular cyberstalker accomplished her purpose. > > > > > > > She got a bunch of people badmouthing her intended > > > > > > > victim. My bet is that she'll leave if they stop, > > > > > > > because she doesn't really have anything else to say. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
