I don't recall the poster, though it should have showed him carrying a bucket 
of water [to flush his toilet] - would've been more Zen, too.:-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> I was only there once for the fist block of my sidhis course - Bevan and John 
> Cowhig, TM Sidhi administrators 
> 
> I can't remember the year - it was in the winter and there had just been a 
> big snow/ice storm a few days before - lots of pipes had frozen and 
> supposedly one well pump had been knocked out by lightning - it was one of 
> those snow storms that had thunder and lightning - the staff place 50 gallon 
> drums with water inthem so we could use buckets to dip water to fill the 
> toilet tank to flush the toilet
> 
> This was the course where when I first walked into the lobby of the facility 
> there was the big poster of Sidha man - the one that no one else seems to 
> remember - with a Superman looking guy replete with blue and red uniform and 
> a big yellow S on his chest (for Sidha-man) and the caption at the bottom 
> saying "Be a Superman - Be a Sidhaman!"
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
>  From: "doctordumbass@..." 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 11:27 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re- John M Knapp - Johnny Profane + TV reviews
>  
> 
>   
> Oh, yes. 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > Are you talking about the Livingston Manor facility?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> >  From: "doctordumbass@" 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 12:23 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re- John M Knapp - Johnny Profane + TV reviews
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > I do not know if it still exists. Beautiful scenery, though the place was 
> > already a dump when I lived there in 1978, just after it was turned into a 
> > men's facility. There was one functional wing, and that was reserved for 
> > the Governors. I lived first in a vermin infested shack, through the snow, 
> > down by the lake, then later in a leaky and cold dorm room. 
> > 
> > We had electricity but no hot water, and for awhile there was no plumbing 
> > at all in the entire facility for flushing toilets (except in the 
> > functional wing) - awesome smell! The roofs leaked everywhere. There were 
> > big rats in the kitchen where all the course food was prepared. 
> > 
> > The "office building" was really shaky - three stories tall, and about a 
> > hundred years old at the time. I was on the printing crew, and sometimes 
> > had to manipulate a forklift with faulty brakes around the basement, 
> > careful not to knock any support beams out of place, and bring the building 
> > down on top of me. 
> > 
> > The benefits: Saw the Northern Lights many, many times, and deer also 
> > abounded on the property. I also did residence courses (4x4) every month, 
> > and rounded 2x2 the rest of the time, so it served its purpose for me. 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I recall this one, rare, time when some bigwigs were coming into La 
> > > > Guardia airport in NYC, and I was on staff at a TM facility in the 
> > > > Catskills. There were a couple of limos there, should Maharishi come to 
> > > > visit, though he never did - Anyway, I was decked out in my khakis and 
> > > > got picked for driver duty, for one of the limos. We were about 2 or 3 
> > > > hours out from NYC, and probably got a late start, so the director, 
> > > > Tim, riding in the back by himself, told me he was going to do his 
> > > > [meditation] program, and instructed me to drive as fast as I wanted, 
> > > > because, "Nature will support". 85 to 90 mph, all the way in - lot's of 
> > > > fun!!
> > > 
> > > And yet, all teachers had been told not to have someone in the car 
> > > meditating since their transcending could pull the driver's awareness off 
> > > the road!!  This info was also given out in 3 days' checking, I think. 
> > > All in all, working in the Catskills might have had some benefits and fun 
> > > times.  The place became a mold infested, toxic place once the roof gave 
> > > way and water leaks were not repaired.  I think the town officials 
> > > literally sealed off sections of the buildings.  Is it still there?
> > > > 
> > > > Driving Movement vehicles was always a blast, like when I'd take this 
> > > > big box truck into the Bowery, or some nearly deserted warehouse in 
> > > > Brooklyn, to drop off copies of the Movement magazine. Could pretty 
> > > > much drive any which way I wanted to, running lights, double parking, 
> > > > as that was the local custom. Helped make up for the $5 a week I made, 
> > > > cash.:-)
> > > > 
> > > > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Carol"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Ha! Well, it's nice to be in the younger crowd. hehe
> > > > > 
> > > > > I was a cherry picker and dish washer in The Way. :D  I seldom got 
> > > > > the higher assignments to rub really close shoulders with the higher 
> > > > > and more spiritual leadership. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > But I didn't see the hypocrisy, like you did in the TMO.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The hypocrisy was there in The Way, but some I didn't see because it 
> > > > > went on behind closed doors and the times I did see what *might be an 
> > > > > apparent* (barf) hypocrisy, I chose to rationalize it. After all, the 
> > > > > leadership knew what was best for the followers and always had our 
> > > > > best interest in mind. (sarcasm) 
> > > > > 
> > > > > It's a long story of course. We all have those...long stories. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > To cherry picking, strawberries, and dirty dishes!
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Barry.(and me too).lol. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I have a theory back from 1981-ish when I did my last staff stint 
> > > > > > with The Movement. I had a good friend, Jack, who mentioned 
> > > > > > something, after the last bout of arrogance and power-tripping we 
> > > > > > were exposed to by A Governor Of The A Of E And Don't You Forget 
> > > > > > It, aka TM Teacher. Jack turned to me and said, "Someone must be 
> > > > > > telling these guys something [that makes them feel this way]."
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > We were fortunate, that although the construction and farming 
> > > > > > project had a lot of Governors, aka fundamentalist overlords 
> > > > > > (though there were one or two decent ones), we were doing hard 
> > > > > > physical work that kept us grounded, and aware of the hypocrisy.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > So, my theory is that some of these Governors having been taught 
> > > > > > repeatedly that they were a special cadre, literally saving the 
> > > > > > world, left the Movement with big heads, and either glommed onto 
> > > > > > other authority figures, or became teachers of others, themselves.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > This is apparently still an issue for some, after so many years, 
> > > > > > either feeling as some do, that their true position above others 
> > > > > > continues to go unrecognized (name, here, starts with a T and ends 
> > > > > > with a B), or continuing to struggle against that once lofty 
> > > > > > position.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > T...B commented that one of the posters here was a bigot, because 
> > > > > > he followed a bigot, T...B not recognizing that he went a lot 
> > > > > > further in his allegiance to the so-called bigot, becoming a 
> > > > > > Teacher of his, than the person he criticized. More examples abound.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > So, I ask myself - what makes someone willfully blind? Obviously 
> > > > > > having been told wondrous and powerful things about oneself is very 
> > > > > > intoxicating. The ego revels at such an opportunity to make this 
> > > > > > the core of the mind's life story. This is the trap for the 
> > > > > > Teachers of TM who chose to leave the teaching, but retained all 
> > > > > > the wonderful and inspiring things said about them. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Glad I was always washing dishes, or planting strawberries...:-)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Carol"  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hey doc...
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Younger than whom? :D
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > ************
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Is it because Carol is apparently a younger woman, and thinks 
> > > > > > > > you are full of it, which drives you nuts-o, or is there 
> > > > > > > > actually more to this?? IMO, I don't think so...
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > This one thread, devoted to documenting how awful a person 
> > > > > > > > > > John Knapp is, is becoming very tedious. Perhaps Carol 
> > > > > > > > > > could 
> > > > > > > > > > find something else to obsess on. I am no fan of John 
> > > > > > > > > > Knapp, 
> > > > > > > > > > but I imagine that he had good intentions to begin with. 
> > > > > > > > > > Then something went wrong and perhaps he didn't cope with 
> > > > > > > > > > it well, and that led to something else, and so on. It's 
> > > > > > > > > > time to leave this guy alone. 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Yeah, like that's gonna happen. 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > This place is like heaven on earth for cyberstalkers,
> > > > > > > > > especially if the stalkee is male, and *very* especially
> > > > > > > > > if a number of people hold a grudge against him anyway
> > > > > > > > > for his feelings about TM and Maharishi. 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > This particular cyberstalker accomplished her purpose.
> > > > > > > > > She got a bunch of people badmouthing her intended 
> > > > > > > > > victim. My bet is that she'll leave if they stop, 
> > > > > > > > > because she doesn't really have anything else to say.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


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