Oh, yes.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
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> Are you talking about the Livingston Manor facility?
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> From: "doctordumbass@..."
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 12:23 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re- John M Knapp - Johnny Profane + TV reviews
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> I do not know if it still exists. Beautiful scenery, though the place was
> already a dump when I lived there in 1978, just after it was turned into a
> men's facility. There was one functional wing, and that was reserved for the
> Governors. I lived first in a vermin infested shack, through the snow, down
> by the lake, then later in a leaky and cold dorm room.
>
> We had electricity but no hot water, and for awhile there was no plumbing at
> all in the entire facility for flushing toilets (except in the functional
> wing) - awesome smell! The roofs leaked everywhere. There were big rats in
> the kitchen where all the course food was prepared.
>
> The "office building" was really shaky - three stories tall, and about a
> hundred years old at the time. I was on the printing crew, and sometimes had
> to manipulate a forklift with faulty brakes around the basement, careful not
> to knock any support beams out of place, and bring the building down on top
> of me.
>
> The benefits: Saw the Northern Lights many, many times, and deer also
> abounded on the property. I also did residence courses (4x4) every month, and
> rounded 2x2 the rest of the time, so it served its purpose for me.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" wrote:
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> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote:
> > >
> > > I recall this one, rare, time when some bigwigs were coming into La
> > > Guardia airport in NYC, and I was on staff at a TM facility in the
> > > Catskills. There were a couple of limos there, should Maharishi come to
> > > visit, though he never did - Anyway, I was decked out in my khakis and
> > > got picked for driver duty, for one of the limos. We were about 2 or 3
> > > hours out from NYC, and probably got a late start, so the director, Tim,
> > > riding in the back by himself, told me he was going to do his
> > > [meditation] program, and instructed me to drive as fast as I wanted,
> > > because, "Nature will support". 85 to 90 mph, all the way in - lot's of
> > > fun!!
> >
> > And yet, all teachers had been told not to have someone in the car
> > meditating since their transcending could pull the driver's awareness off
> > the road!! This info was also given out in 3 days' checking, I think. All
> > in all, working in the Catskills might have had some benefits and fun
> > times. The place became a mold infested, toxic place once the roof gave
> > way and water leaks were not repaired. I think the town officials
> > literally sealed off sections of the buildings. Is it still there?
> > >
> > > Driving Movement vehicles was always a blast, like when I'd take this big
> > > box truck into the Bowery, or some nearly deserted warehouse in Brooklyn,
> > > to drop off copies of the Movement magazine. Could pretty much drive any
> > > which way I wanted to, running lights, double parking, as that was the
> > > local custom. Helped make up for the $5 a week I made, cash.:-)
> > >
> > > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Carol" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ha! Well, it's nice to be in the younger crowd. hehe
> > > >
> > > > I was a cherry picker and dish washer in The Way. :D I seldom got the
> > > > higher assignments to rub really close shoulders with the higher and
> > > > more spiritual leadership.
> > > >
> > > > But I didn't see the hypocrisy, like you did in the TMO.
> > > >
> > > > The hypocrisy was there in The Way, but some I didn't see because it
> > > > went on behind closed doors and the times I did see what *might be an
> > > > apparent* (barf) hypocrisy, I chose to rationalize it. After all, the
> > > > leadership knew what was best for the followers and always had our best
> > > > interest in mind. (sarcasm)
> > > >
> > > > It's a long story of course. We all have those...long stories.
> > > >
> > > > To cherry picking, strawberries, and dirty dishes!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Barry.(and me too).lol.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a theory back from 1981-ish when I did my last staff stint
> > > > > with The Movement. I had a good friend, Jack, who mentioned
> > > > > something, after the last bout of arrogance and power-tripping we
> > > > > were exposed to by A Governor Of The A Of E And Don't You Forget It,
> > > > > aka TM Teacher. Jack turned to me and said, "Someone must be telling
> > > > > these guys something [that makes them feel this way]."
> > > > >
> > > > > We were fortunate, that although the construction and farming project
> > > > > had a lot of Governors, aka fundamentalist overlords (though there
> > > > > were one or two decent ones), we were doing hard physical work that
> > > > > kept us grounded, and aware of the hypocrisy.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, my theory is that some of these Governors having been taught
> > > > > repeatedly that they were a special cadre, literally saving the
> > > > > world, left the Movement with big heads, and either glommed onto
> > > > > other authority figures, or became teachers of others, themselves.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is apparently still an issue for some, after so many years,
> > > > > either feeling as some do, that their true position above others
> > > > > continues to go unrecognized (name, here, starts with a T and ends
> > > > > with a B), or continuing to struggle against that once lofty position.
> > > > >
> > > > > T...B commented that one of the posters here was a bigot, because he
> > > > > followed a bigot, T...B not recognizing that he went a lot further in
> > > > > his allegiance to the so-called bigot, becoming a Teacher of his,
> > > > > than the person he criticized. More examples abound.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, I ask myself - what makes someone willfully blind? Obviously
> > > > > having been told wondrous and powerful things about oneself is very
> > > > > intoxicating. The ego revels at such an opportunity to make this the
> > > > > core of the mind's life story. This is the trap for the Teachers of
> > > > > TM who chose to leave the teaching, but retained all the wonderful
> > > > > and inspiring things said about them.
> > > > >
> > > > > Glad I was always washing dishes, or planting strawberries...:-)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Carol" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hey doc...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Younger than whom? :D
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ************
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is it because Carol is apparently a younger woman, and thinks you
> > > > > > > are full of it, which drives you nuts-o, or is there actually
> > > > > > > more to this?? IMO, I don't think so...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This one thread, devoted to documenting how awful a person
> > > > > > > > > John Knapp is, is becoming very tedious. Perhaps Carol could
> > > > > > > > > find something else to obsess on. I am no fan of John Knapp,
> > > > > > > > > but I imagine that he had good intentions to begin with.
> > > > > > > > > Then something went wrong and perhaps he didn't cope with
> > > > > > > > > it well, and that led to something else, and so on. It's
> > > > > > > > > time to leave this guy alone.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yeah, like that's gonna happen.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This place is like heaven on earth for cyberstalkers,
> > > > > > > > especially if the stalkee is male, and *very* especially
> > > > > > > > if a number of people hold a grudge against him anyway
> > > > > > > > for his feelings about TM and Maharishi.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This particular cyberstalker accomplished her purpose.
> > > > > > > > She got a bunch of people badmouthing her intended
> > > > > > > > victim. My bet is that she'll leave if they stop,
> > > > > > > > because she doesn't really have anything else to say.
> > > > > > > >
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