The Fairfield [meditating] community does have its own home or local mystic kinds of saints too. These are folks who are known by their works locally. There is quite an impressive local culture of the manifest saintly in the community. You may have not heard about some of them but they have specialties and gifts that are of help to people as manifest locally. Some to be able to keep a Dome badge keep a low profile. Others whether or not they are found by the TM administration is not important to them that way, they are known locally for who they are.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om when the saints come visiting! > > > > > > We can enumerate their visits to Fairfield: > > > > > > > > > > > > Mother Meera visiting with Fairfield. > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Meera > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shree Maa visited with Fairfield. > > > > > http://www.shreemaa.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Karunamayi in Fairfield: > > > > http://www.karunamayi.org/ > > > > > > > > > > An elder and saintly, Bapuji-Pujya Shree Prem Avadhootji was brought to > > > visit with Fairfield on his tour of America. > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpYriW8dwPo > > > > > > > Ammachi, she's been to Fairfield > > http://amma.org/meeting-amma/north-america > > > > Saints, known more widely as a holy people by the spiritual work of their > life. > > Master John Douglas has been visiting to Fairfield with some regularity. > Master John Douglas evidently is in an ascent to a kind of saintly stature as > a powerful healer and spiritual teacher. http://www.spirit-repair.com/ > Runs an effective spiritual business earning quite a lot of money at the work > and un-like some others of the holy there are no evident humanitarian > programs or a community otherwise around his work. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Fairfield we've been extremely fortunate to have had the > > > > > > > number of the great saints of our times visit Fairfield over the > > > > > > > years. It's pretty incredible that they come and we have got to > > > > > > > have had such close and intimate time with some of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Yoga Vasistha: > > > > > > > > A real preceptor is one who can produce blissful sensation in > > > > > > > > the body of the disciple by their sight, touch, or instructions. > > > > > > > > The back story, A movement held hostage. I got a friend who > > > > > > > > lunches with Bevan whence Bevan is in town and this friend says > > > > > > > > of Bevan that our Bevan is scared to death of saints for fear > > > > > > > > he might have a spiritual experience. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Life work of The holy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saintly Healing Maharishi says, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "That is `The department of the Almighty does it`. > > > > > > > > > It is not the individual - it is the department. And it is > > > > > > > > > only one way, it is > > > > > > > > > not two ways. The help is not given, it is received. It is > > > > > > > > > received by our > > > > > > > > > ability to attune with that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And that ability develops with devotion, surrender and > > > > > > > > > service. These three things - automatically one is elevated > > > > > > > > > to that level. And help doesn`t come from outside, it comes > > > > > > > > > from right were we are, from our own being. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But those unaware of one`s own being have this mechanics to > > > > > > > > > help them. And this > > > > > > > > > is true for all the saints in all the times through out the > > > > > > > > > world." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Paraphrasing Maharishi," a doctor doesn't need to be in > > > > > > > > > > > good health to heal others". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, are looking at and talking about something else bigger > > > > > > > > > > here. Primary care providers with a degree in medicine, > > > > > > > > > > even Chopra, are more usually just different trades-people > > > > > > > > > > compared to saints. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, > > > > > > > > > > > "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a good answer, Mike. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wouldn't want to have to define "holy man" or > > > > > > > > > > > > "saint," so > > > > > > > > > > > > I wouldn't want to say what would disqualify him (or > > > > > > > > > > > > qualify > > > > > > > > > > > > him, for that matter) for being either. He wasn't a > > > > > > > > > > > > perfect > > > > > > > > > > > > human being, that's for sure. It's up to the individual > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > decide how much they want to hold his sins against him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Couldn't describe? Saints? Okay, if you won't stick > > > > > > > > > > > your neck out at this point I will for sake of the > > > > > > > > > > > discussion here. We all know them when we see them. > > > > > > > > > > > Saints become described by their work. As spiritual > > > > > > > > > > > people our saints are those particular people who can > > > > > > > > > > > help people spiritually and who distinguish their life > > > > > > > > > > > work that way. More than just doing good works and > > > > > > > > > > > different from folks [think Batgap.com] just being awake > > > > > > > > > > > authors or spiritual teachers out on the circuit but > > > > > > > > > > > those being in the work of tangibly lending spiritual > > > > > > > > > > > transformation by interceding with healing for others of > > > > > > > > > > > the binding influences in the subtle bodies of the > > > > > > > > > > > spiritual psycho-physical and emotional samskara towards > > > > > > > > > > > helping to free people of the binding influences in their > > > > > > > > > > > spiritual life on earth. Real saints, it's those > > > > > > > > > > > particular enlightened who can tangibly or manifestly > > > > > > > > > > > heal people who are either afflicted or ignorant in their > > > > > > > > > > > spiritual lives. > > > > > > > > > > > -Buck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > Dixon wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, he's still a holy man, just not as holy as most > > > > > > > > > > > > > of us thought. The Bible tells usÃÂ that all men > > > > > > > > > > > > > fall short of the Glory of God. That means that all > > > > > > > > > > > > > men have and will sin. Maharishi was a man, not God. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Bible also speaks of angels coming to earth and > > > > > > > > > > > > > having sex with women. Veda Vyasa had sex with an > > > > > > > > > > > > > unmarried woman in a boat while crossing a river, > > > > > > > > > > > > > thus we have Shukadeva. Maharishi belongs on a > > > > > > > > > > > > > pedestal, just not as high as we might have thought. > > > > > > > > > > > > > My thoughts are that M was a very high soul on a > > > > > > > > > > > > > mission and upon taking birth as a man, he did things > > > > > > > > > > > > > men do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Michael Jackson > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: "mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com"; > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 12:58 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Serious Question > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÂ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OK, serious question here to all those who have > > > > > > > > > > > > > defended Maharishi as a saint and true holy man. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you account for the stories that several of > > > > > > > > > > > > > his former skin boys have told about his sexual > > > > > > > > > > > > > escapades? Mark Landau, Billy Clayton, Nedd Wynn and > > > > > > > > > > > > > others have told stories that are very similar as to > > > > > > > > > > > > > what who and when. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you think they are all lying and if so why? Or do > > > > > > > > > > > > > you honestly think it is alright for a true holy man > > > > > > > > > > > > > who always said he was a lifelong celibate to have > > > > > > > > > > > > > sex repeatedly and lie about having done so? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
