--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson <mjackson74@...> wrote: > > You already answered your own question: > > For our practice we select only the > > suitable mantras of personal Gods.
Right. My question was, "Did Maharishi say in this quote that TM involves repeating the names of gods or goddesses? Or did he say something a little different?" The answer is that he said something a little different: "mantras of personal gods," not "names of personal gods." This is one of the things that emptybill pointed out. Such mantras fetch to us the > > grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of > > life." > > > > > ________________________________ > From: authfriend <authfriend@...> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:55 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > > > Â > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > that is a good quote - and it points out something else the > > former skin boy told me which was that in his opinion, TM is > > all about the the accumulation of personal power rather than > > being a path to enlightenment as in we repeat the names of > > gods or goddesses > > Back to the original issue: Did Maharishi say in this quote > that TM involves repeating the names of gods or goddesses? > > Or did he say something a little different? > > (Just for the record, we've had several lengthy discussions > of this Beacon Light quote here over the years. I guess > Xeno wasn't here for the last one. I'm not sure there's > anything to be said about the quote that hasn't been said > before more than once, but we might as well go over it > again.) > > Oh, and are enlightenment and "the accumulation of personal > power" mutually exclusive? For that matter, does "make us > happier in every walk of life" even refer to "personal > power"? > > > so they will give us good stuff - either way, the end result > > is the kinds of behavior that the TMO leaders and even low > > to mid level managers exhibit - unpleasant, deceitful, > > arrogant etc. Yep TM is a goooooood thing to do. And even if > > you like Lynch's movies for their artistic value as films, > > the subject matter is often some sick twisted stuff - and he > > credits TM with unleashing his creativity to make such trash > > Wait. Is it trash, or does it have artistic value? > > > And to answer J's question - empty's quoting an old post don't > > cut no ice wid me cuz I don't believe it. Period. > > Right. As I said, you are unwilling or unable to address > the case emptybill made. You won't even address the > question of whether the opinion of a skin boy trumps that > of a respected scholarly Hindu yogi. > > "The skin boy said it, I believe it, that settles it." I > could swear I've seen that on a bumper sticker somewhere. > > > ________________________________ > > From: authfriend > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 11:10 AM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch Is Back > > > > > > ÃÂ > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > > > > > While I do not want to get into this particular sparring match > > > between MJ and JS about whether TM is a devotional practice or > > > not, > > > > What Michael and I are actually "sparring" about is > > Michael's unwillingness--or inability--to address the > > case emptybill made that TM is not a devotional > > practice. > > > > > the following link points to a few pages of Maharishi's Theory > > > of Spiritual development from 1955, which is the earliest > > > document I know of that describes his system of meditation. > > > > Actually the link doesn't "point to" anything. It doesn't > > work (HTTP 404). > > > > > This is a PDF document, an excerpt from 'Beacon Light of the > > > Himalayas'. > > > > And I'll just bet it's the excerpt in which Maharishi says: > > > > "...We find that any sound can serve our purpose of training the > > mind to become sharp. But we do not select any sound like 'mike', > > flower, table, pen, wall etc. because such ordinary sounds can > > do nothing more than merely sharpening the mind; whereas there > > are some special sounds which have the additional efficacy of > > producing vibrations whose effects are found to be congenial > > to our way of life. This is the scientific reason why we do not > > select any word at random. For our practice we select only the > > suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to us the > > grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of > > life." > > > > Right? > > > > > Because the TMO did not exist then, and this was published without a > > > copyright, I will assume it is in the public domain. > > > > > > http://bit.ly/YQmNKW > > > > > >