"Have not and will not share all he told me because if I did folks like Dr D and Nabby would have apoplexy."
Are you f*cking kidding me, Mikey?? What would you like to *shock* me with? I had been around the block many, many times before I began TM, at the not so tender age of 21, and began hearing about Maharishi. That was nearly 38 years ago, and I have lived many lifetimes since. Please do not hold back your tales of woe and deceit on my account. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson <mjackson74@...> wrote: > > I never did it for what other people thought and if everyone gits tired of me > bein' here, all they gotta do it ask the moderator to kick me off and off I > will go. > > As to how much further I can take it, I dunno cuz before a couple weeks ago I > thought my opinion of Marshy could go no lower till I spoke with Mark Landau > on the phone and some of the things he told me made the hair stand up on the > back of my neck. > > So yes, Ravi it was Mark - and no we are not friends, just acquaintances - he > mentioned in his BATGAP interview with Rick that both Marshy and TM had a > dark side and Rick said let's come back to that, but they never did. I was > curious what he meant by that and e-mailed him asking. He replied it would be > easier to just tell me on the phone and I called him. Talked a little over > half an hour. Have not and will not share all he told me because if I did > folks like Dr D and Nabby would have apoplexy. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Ann <awoelflebater@...> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 9:56 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the > sighted > > > Â > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > On second thought, you are right Dr Dummy - I hereby announce that I > > officially revoke everything I said about Marshy and TM and I am gonna > > program my Ipod to play only that goddamn funny, funny Maharishi Vedic > > Honey video over and over and over - I hope one day to wear the white > > (meaning become a raja) Jai Guru Dr. Dumbass!!! > > Hey MJ. I will throw my small thought into the mix here. I have read and > appreciated much of what you have written of your experiences at MIU, within > the various phases of your different roles within the Movement as a > meditator, member of staff and all the other ways in which you participated. > I especially enjoyed reading what you had to say a few months ago when you > first started posting about your > disappointment/disillusionment/disgruntlement with MMY and with many others > in positions of power and authority within the TMM. Although I was a > meditator for almost 20 years and graduated from MIU I have no hard feelings > about my time there or the technique. However, this does not stop me from > considering all that you have to say about your own, very different, > experience. And it does not mean I don't respect and consider all that you > have to say as far as I can do that without having gone through or seen what > you did. > > I am not sure how much further you can go with your unearthing of the slimier > aspects of what has gone on within the movement and around MMY and even with > MMY himself. I, for one, have a pretty clear picture of what you know and how > you feel. Your audience has been reading what you have to say for weeks now > and I am pretty sure we could, individually, write an essay on how MJ feels > about MMY and the Movement and the practice of TM. What is happening now is > that some are getting tired of reading, of being exposed to, what is starting > to sound a little like a broken record. What you have to say isn't going > anywhere past where it has been for a while now. It is evidently important to > you to use this forum, and other places, as a sounding board for how you > feel. But it seems as if you are having to defend your position a little > harder now, that there is not the same empathy or support for your position. > It seems you are starting to look like a man standing > alone on a hilltop defending his patch of land to an ever-increasing number > of those unsympathetic to your 'cause'. > > I am not saying that what you have to say is less valid than it was three > months ago it is just that if you test the wind direction and the barometer > it is telling you your audience here is not quite as receptive to your > message as it once was. This is, of course, only my opinion. I respect your > need to voice how you feel and admire your courage to do just that but I > think I have gotten the message now. > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: "doctordumbass@" > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 8:35 PM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted > > > > > > ÃÂ > > Just such a strange thing, that the fiercest critics of TM on here, are > > those with no recent experience of the technique. Sure, they had their > > heyday - a few decades ago. > > > > Now, looking back hazily on those times, they stand up as those to be > > believed, the DEFINITIVE VOICES regarding the technique, its founder, and > > any other pearls that spew forth. Its just so much tripe. > > > > Being ordinarily skeptical, doubting stuff I am told, is second nature to > > me - an excellent survival tool, imo. So I can appreciate airing doubts > > about...anything. However, how long does it take to integrate something > > THAT YOU NO LONGER PRACTICE into your life? Why the public fixation on > > something that no longer has value to you? > > > > Are you warning us? (how condescending) > > > > Are you saving us? (how laughable) > > > > Are you opening our eyes? (see above) > > > > Why are you *devoting* your time and thought, to something you no longer do? > > > > Color me Puzzled. > > >