Thanks Doc. What you state makes sense to me.
Life is large. It's nice to keep it in perspective. I may have asked before if you are familiar with the Institute of HeartMath? It gets into how our hearts think...not as metaphor, but how our hearts actually help us make decisions. Which brings to mind a couple books I read some years back by Paul Pearsall. One of those books is "The Heart's Code." Reading the accounts of organ transplant patients regarding cellular memory is fascinating. ************** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... <no_reply@...> wrote: > > "Eternity abides at all times in the silence within each of us; it is the > nakedness of who we are and is continually reconciling all that exists." > > *Beautifully* put!!! Thanks! > > To get into technicalities, our thoughts serve the legitimate purpose of > bringing our desires into being. However, in order to do this efficiently, we > must attain a grace, or synchrony, with ourselves and our surroundings, so > that the mind; the heart, and the discrimination, both, don't use up so much > energy, just freely spinning, or getting lost in fantasies. > > So, life, anchored in eternity, in silence, is actually a fuller life than > that imposed by the ego, dancing from thought to thought. > > Thoughts are amazing and powerful impulses. When we are able to witness their > rising from a native bed of silence, they fulfill life's purpose for each of > us. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Carol" <jchwelch@> wrote: > > > > I hope there are thoughts in eternity. Seems it'd be very boring otherwise. > > > > But, I'm probably missing your point. Or maybe part of your point is there > > is no point? > > > > (I vaguely recall that movie, The Point. ) > > > > So, if I understand what you are saying... our thoughts protect us from > > eternity (or rather work as a defense mechanism blocking ourselves to be > > able to experience eternity). Eternity abides at all times in the silence > > within each of us; it is the nakedness of who we are and is continually > > reconciling all that exists. > > > > Oddly enough, a scripture verse comes to mind, "...[God] hath planted > > eternity in the hearts of [humankind]..." > > http://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Bible.show/sVerseID/17371/eVerseID/17371/version/amp/opt/parallel > > > > ************ > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > "I wonder if there is an eternity and if there will be a time when all is > > > naked and when all is somehow reconciled?" > > > > > > Oddly, when there are no longer our thoughts protecting us from eternity, > > > the nakedness (to ourselves) continues, and the reconciliation of > > > everything continues also. > > > > > > With silence, vs. thoughts, as a native mental state, eternity is > > > naturally present, because there are no marked boundaries in that state, > > > no limitations. How could there be? > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Carol" <jchwelch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Yah. (Carol smiles) > > > > > > > > What an incredible voyage O\or, as the Grateful Dead put it..."what a > > > > long, strange trip it's been..." > > > > > > > > Except it's not all "been;" it continues on as an "is." > > > > > > > > I wonder if there is an eternity and if there will be a time when all > > > > is naked and when all is somehow reconciled? > > > > > > > > **** > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > The other thing that occurs to me about this process, is the self > > > > > preservation that issues themselves take on, within us, within our > > > > > awareness. Sort of the Alien scenario, without the exploding chest. > > > > > Seriously, they form themselves such that they are protected from our > > > > > examination. > > > > > > > > > > The physical model I came up with was that of issues taking the form > > > > > of small christmas ornament sized silver reflective balls, within our > > > > > awareness, so as to provide no apparent means of entry, beyond the > > > > > reflective illusion. They are enhanced in size by the reflection of > > > > > our anxiety and fear, in facing them. > > > > > > > > > > Pretty weird Maya, until each is dealt with, and found to be far less > > > > > intimidating, than they first appear. > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps closer to The Incredible Voyage, than Alien. :-) > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you - Yeah, its not an either/or for me, regarding expression > > > > > > of the past. However we express and *integrate* it. The interesting > > > > > > thing I have found is that once the past issues have been faced, > > > > > > they don't go away. > > > > > > > > > > > > Instead, they simply become part of the integrated memory > > > > > > landscape, nothing left to overtly revel in, cringe from, or > > > > > > castigate. The previous issue is still seen in its entirety, but > > > > > > without the sting and magnification. As a result, all the intense > > > > > > focus falls away, and we move on to other speed bumps. All the hard > > > > > > sledding eventually results in a much greater sense of presence, > > > > > > individual freedom, evenness, and confidence. > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you digest the Universe? One bite at a time. Chew thoroughly. > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Carol" <jchwelch@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Great post Doc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've asked myself many times over "How long does *this* take? Why > > > > > > > the eff does it keep coming up to haunt me?" I've often wished > > > > > > > for a don't-give-a-damn switch, in the sense of be able to 'get > > > > > > > over' something. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Like other folks who've lived some life, I have techniques in my > > > > > > > tool box (one of those being mindfulness / meditation) that help > > > > > > > along that path. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not of the opinion that if someone chooses to write about or > > > > > > > express in other ways (dance, visual arts, etc) their life > > > > > > > experiences from their distant or recent past (as that is all we > > > > > > > have until the next moment) as an indication that they have not > > > > > > > "moved on." I don't see expression as being stuck in something. > > > > > > > It could mean that; but only that person or someone who is > > > > > > > intimately close with that person can really know if that is the > > > > > > > case. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I like the word "integrate" (like you stated) more than the > > > > > > > phrases "getting over" or "moving on." (Though you did later in > > > > > > > your comment use the phrase "move on.") > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cul-de-sac syndrome...I'll have to adopt that term and recognize > > > > > > > when I'm there. It's a good mind pic. Thank you! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ********** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, exactly the way I feel too - How long does it take to > > > > > > > > integrate something you no longer do? Valid question, and > > > > > > > > something I grapple with a fair amount these days, now that I > > > > > > > > finally have the time to do so. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My obvious take on it is that stuff comes up in life, for all > > > > > > > > of us, sometimes challenge after challenge after challenge, to > > > > > > > > the point of near exhaustion. Processing it through reflection, > > > > > > > > becoming aware of all we go through, and how it changes us is a > > > > > > > > vital part of life, something critical to staying ALIVE, and > > > > > > > > present. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But, whatever the current issue is, cult experience in this > > > > > > > > case, it is not our identity, or our singular cause. Nothing > > > > > > > > really is. Nothing defines us once and forever. That is a stale > > > > > > > > model, of the old culture of labels. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So it is a wonderful thing to hear someone express even the > > > > > > > > most negative insights, if growth is apparent. However, if it > > > > > > > > just the ego getting trapped in a cul-de-sac, it is worth > > > > > > > > pointing out, and moving on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" <awoelflebater@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson > > > > > > > > > <mjackson74@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On second thought, you are right Dr Dummy - I hereby > > > > > > > > > > announce that I officially revoke everything I said about > > > > > > > > > > Marshy and TM and I am gonna program my Ipod to play only > > > > > > > > > > that goddamn funny, funny Maharishi Vedic Honey video over > > > > > > > > > > and over and over - I hope one day to wear the white > > > > > > > > > > (meaning become a raja) Jai Guru Dr. Dumbass!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey MJ. I will throw my small thought into the mix here. I > > > > > > > > > have read and appreciated much of what you have written of > > > > > > > > > your experiences at MIU, within the various phases of your > > > > > > > > > different roles within the Movement as a meditator, member of > > > > > > > > > staff and all the other ways in which you participated. I > > > > > > > > > especially enjoyed reading what you had to say a few months > > > > > > > > > ago when you first started posting about your > > > > > > > > > disappointment/disillusionment/disgruntlement with MMY and > > > > > > > > > with many others in positions of power and authority within > > > > > > > > > the TMM. Although I was a meditator for almost 20 years and > > > > > > > > > graduated from MIU I have no hard feelings about my time > > > > > > > > > there or the technique. However, this does not stop me from > > > > > > > > > considering all that you have to say about your own, very > > > > > > > > > different, experience. And it does not mean I don't respect > > > > > > > > > and consider all that you have to say as far as I can do that > > > > > > > > > without having gone through or seen what you did. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure how much further you can go with your > > > > > > > > > unearthing of the slimier aspects of what has gone on within > > > > > > > > > the movement and around MMY and even with MMY himself. I, for > > > > > > > > > one, have a pretty clear picture of what you know and how you > > > > > > > > > feel. Your audience has been reading what you have to say for > > > > > > > > > weeks now and I am pretty sure we could, individually, write > > > > > > > > > an essay on how MJ feels about MMY and the Movement and the > > > > > > > > > practice of TM. What is happening now is that some are > > > > > > > > > getting tired of reading, of being exposed to, what is > > > > > > > > > starting to sound a little like a broken record. What you > > > > > > > > > have to say isn't going anywhere past where it has been for a > > > > > > > > > while now. It is evidently important to you to use this > > > > > > > > > forum, and other places, as a sounding board for how you > > > > > > > > > feel. But it seems as if you are having to defend your > > > > > > > > > position a little harder now, that there is not the same > > > > > > > > > empathy or support for your position. It seems you are > > > > > > > > > starting to look like a man standing alone on a hilltop > > > > > > > > > defending his patch of land to an ever-increasing number of > > > > > > > > > those unsympathetic to your 'cause'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not saying that what you have to say is less valid than > > > > > > > > > it was three months ago it is just that if you test the wind > > > > > > > > > direction and the barometer it is telling you your audience > > > > > > > > > here is not quite as receptive to your message as it once > > > > > > > > > was. This is, of course, only my opinion. I respect your need > > > > > > > > > to voice how you feel and admire your courage to do just that > > > > > > > > > but I think I have gotten the message now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > From: "doctordumbass@" <doctordumbass@> > > > > > > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 8:35 PM > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] TM Critics on FFL - the blind > > > > > > > > > > "leading" the sighted > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > Just such a strange thing, that the fiercest critics of TM > > > > > > > > > > on here, are those with no recent experience of the > > > > > > > > > > technique. Sure, they had their heyday - a few decades ago. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, looking back hazily on those times, they stand up as > > > > > > > > > > those to be believed, the DEFINITIVE VOICES regarding the > > > > > > > > > > technique, its founder, and any other pearls that spew > > > > > > > > > > forth. Its just so much tripe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Being ordinarily skeptical, doubting stuff I am told, is > > > > > > > > > > second nature to me - an excellent survival tool, imo. So I > > > > > > > > > > can appreciate airing doubts about...anything. However, how > > > > > > > > > > long does it take to integrate something THAT YOU NO LONGER > > > > > > > > > > PRACTICE into your life? Why the public fixation on > > > > > > > > > > something that no longer has value to you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you warning us? (how condescending) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you saving us? (how laughable) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you opening our eyes? (see above) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why are you *devoting* your time and thought, to something > > > > > > > > > > you no longer do? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Color me Puzzled. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
