You are funny Ann. Thanks for making me smile.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" <awoelflebater@...> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: > > > > When all the snow starts melting, the kaphaness of kapha season is gonna hit like a ton of bricks. I wonder if there's a sound that's good for all 3 doshas just as there are a few foods that are good for all 3. > > I have it on great authority that the sound of gargling is the ticket in terms of the ultimate anti-kapha sound and the food of choice is candy corn but made with molasses not brown sugar. Oh, and in a pinch, spinach with a little malt vinegar and pepper is marvelous for that pesky kaphaness. Happy Spring! > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Bhairitu noozguru@ > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 2:58 PM > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Tradition? > > > > > >  > > I need to find the Primordial Sound tape as I think it has the Gayatri > > Mantra on it. In ayurveda Om is considered useful to calm vata though > > Ram is favored. > > > > On 02/28/2013 06:30 AM, navashok wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@ wrote: > > >> the non-use of Om by householders is very well documented to have been emphasized by Swami Brahmananda Saraswati. > > > No argument about this here. But the reason is the caste system and orthodoxy. According to extreme conservatives, any mantra of the Vedas could not be pronounced by Non-Brahmins, and women. You can read the passage about women and Om from the Beacon Light of the Himalaya, that Xeno uploaded to the files. Same is true for the Gayatri Mantra, it is not taught in the TM movement. Other spiritual Hindu based movements are less conservative and advocate it. > > > > > >> There is so many famous mantras that do not use Om at all ... " Shree Rama Jaya Rama...etc the examples are very many. > > > Yes, but they are not Vedic. If they would be Vedic, that is, if they would occur in the Rig Veda for example, they would be equally disallowed by the movement. The Shankaracharya order of the Saraswati branch, to which Guru Dev belonged to is the MOST conservative of all the orthodox orders. Only Brahmins could become Swamis, that is also the reason that Maharishi never became a Swami. And that is also the reason why his body was cremated instead of buried. The movement uppers and Rajas would have wanted the body to be burried, and have a real Samadhi, but the current Shankaracharya, even though supportive of the movement did not allow. > > > > > > The question for me is therefore: how much do you believe in the caste system and all the orthodox rules? If I don't believe in the caste system, I have no reason to reject OM for meditation. In fact it would simplify things a lot. Everybody knows it, knows it's proper pronunciation, and it is not directly connected to any gods, it is not sectarian or cultic. > > > > > > For example Shree Rama Jaya Raam Jaya Jaya Raam is a Vaishnavic Mantra and associated with Rama. There might be Shaivas who don't like it. There are Shaivas who don't visit Vaishanava temples. > > > > > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> I think there is only one truly Vedic mantra and that is OM. > > >>> Dear Nava, > > >>> Real TM tru-believers strongly hold that Maharishi's revival of Knowledge has saved India from `Om". I have been lectured several times on this very point by extremely faithful TM people who seem quite convinced. You'll notice that none of the TM versions of mantras on the TM-X website notice `Om' as any part of a TM mantra. Though Shri Vidya and everyone else going back use "Om" to initiate or energized mantras. Is TM missing something? Maharishi uniquely seems a Vedic out-layer on this in the distribution of sages on mantras. > > >>> I like `Om' myself to spin the root and tune the heart and then go from there. But that is different from TM and should not be confused even though chakras well light up upon proper awareness and practice of the TM-sidhis. But at that point it is independent of employing 'Om' or much of anything else. > > >>> Best Regards from Fairfield, > > >>> -Buck > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> navashok: > > >>>>>> Where does the TM technique come from? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> From India and the Vedas? LoL! > > >>>>> > > >>>>> According to Mircea Eliade, only the rudiments of classic > > >>>>> Yoga are to be found in the Vedas, and while shamanism and > > >>>>> other techniques of ecstasy are documented among other > > >>>>> Indo-European people, "Yoga is to be found only in India > > >>>>> and in cultures influenced by Indian spirituality" (102). > > >>>> I think there is only one truly Vedic mantra and that is OM. What Maharishi teaches as the Vedic tradition is actually the Tantric tradition appropriated by Brahmanism, through the teaching of Shri Vidhya. With Vedic literature, he means the Agamas. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>> Work cited: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> 'Yoga : Immortality and Freedom' > > >>>>> by Mircea Eliade > > >>>>> Princeton University Press, 1970 > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Read more: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Subject: A decomposition of practice ertswhile abusers lore > > >>>>> Author: Willytex > > >>>>> Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental > > >>>>> Date: February 6, 2005 > > >>>>> http://tinyurl.com/ykqy7zh > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Other titles of interst: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> 'Shamanism: Archaic Techniques of Ecstasy' > > >>>>> by Mircea Eliade > > >>>>> Princeton University Press; 2004 > > >>>>> > > >>>>> 'The Yoga Tradition: Its History, Literature, > > >>>>> Philosophy and Practice' > > >>>>> by Georg Feuerstein and Ken Wilbur > > >>>>> Hohm Press, 2001 > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > >
