--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson <mjackson74@...> wrote: > > Okay, not superior but better - he absolutely said many times that TM was the best meditation to do.
I think, (in fact I know, having been a teacher), that the connection was made as to the effortlessness, or "naturalness" of the technique. Nature follows the path of least action. This is why it would have been said to be the most effective. I don't recall making a point of ever calling it the "best" The "best" statement, even if implied, was not made without some rationale. Sorry about that. > I wish some other TM teachers here would weigh in on this and explain to me how the instructions which are not much different than other meditations makes it better than any other. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 6:15 PM > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders > > > Â > I'm not sure M ever said the mantras he gave were *superior*. It's the naturalness and effortlessness of the technique that is superior. It goes by it's self. There's no concentrating or effort made and is very effective. The mantras are just part of the tradition he came from as is the puja and so on. You could transcend just as easily on *Elohim*, if you didn't have any association with it and used the same instruction used in TM. > > From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 1:43 PM > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders > > Â > But you don't need TM to do that - so what about TM mantras are special? Cuz if it isn't the mantras, you can't seriously think the simple instructions given in the checking notes for example are responsible for TM being superior to all other meditation methods? > > > From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 4:08 PM > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders > > Â > Correct, the actual instructions on meditation are simply like taking the correct angle on a diving board. Once the correct angle is reached, natural law(gravity) does the rest, you fall into the water. Once the mantra is thought effortlessly, the process of transcending begins. Making any effort at that point,holding onto or changing the rhythm, etc. stops the process of transcending. If we feel like we are *forgetting* the mantra, we let it go because that is when we are transcending. That *gap* between forgetting the mantra and a new thought arising is when we transcended. With practice, that gap gets more and more noticeable, to the point of no mantra and no thought, just silence, awareness of awareness. > > From: authfriend authfriend@... > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 12:11 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders > > Â > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote: > > > > Natural effortlessness. Bingo. Or more precisely, the specific instructional > method Maharishi created (right down to the instruction > to "Sit easily" rather than "Relax" at the start of > checking). (The puja may be part of it as well--some TM teachers > would say so, at any rate.) But the mantras TM uses are just plain ol' garden-variety bija mantras. Do a search for "bija mantra" (or "beeja" > or "beej"), Michael, you'll find 'em all over the Web. > They're said to be especially powerful, but they're not > unique to TM. > ________________________________ > > From: Michael Jackson > > To: "mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com"; mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 10:31 AM > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders > > > > ÃÂ > > > > Oh come on - Marshy always said TM was better than other meditations - for that to be true, the particular set of mantras have to be superior to all others. If not, what would then make TM better than other meditations? > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: sparaig > To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 1:12 PM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders > > > > ÃÂ > > All MMY claimed about TM mantras was: 1) they are not om or some other monk-oriented mantra (if there are any, in his mind); 2) he deemed them to be suitable for householders; 3) some mantras were more suitable for some people than than others, and he chose a simple set that was reasonably beneficial for anyone, though each was presumably more beneficial for some people than others. MMY never claimed to be the ultimate expert on such matters. The impression he gave was that he intuited a few things from the tradition that he thought were most important and made them part of the TM canon. L --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation" wrote: > > They are superior in that if you pay for them, it fills up the TMO's pockets with more money. More money = Superior. > > seekliberation > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > > > My question is, if the TM mantras are superior, how are they > > superior? > > > > > >
