--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok <no_reply@...> wrote:
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> OTOH, I have used many non sanskrit mantras, for example
> Hebrew words, or the most clear example are the Siddhis,
> which are simply English words, Inner Light for example.
> So, all of the TM logic about why TM is so effective,
> that its a word without meaning, that it has a special
> sound quality, goes out of the window when it comes to
> Siddhis.
The sutras used in the TM-Sidhi program *are not mantras*;
sutra practice *is not meditation*. That the sutras are
words/phrases with semantic meaning has nothing to do with
what is said about the mantras; nothing "goes out the
window" on that basis.
> They have meaning, which is obviously important, as they
> are translated to the local languages. And everybody here
> will claim that they work just well and deepen the
> experience of TM.
If by "they work just well" you meant to write "they work
just AS well" ("just well" isn't English), meaning the
sutras work just as well as the mantra, anyone who did say
that would be confused. The mantra one uses for plain-
vanilla TM and the sutras one uses in TM-Sidhis practice
are for different purposes and the methods of using them
are different. They "work" differently.
> Btw. where is the checking procedure of the siddhis?
TM-Sidhi administrators come around to TM centers on a
regular basis to make it available. It's also often
available on big WPAs.
> You know the checking procedure has the sense to ensure
> the correct effortless TM, why isn't there a similar
> procedure for the siddhis?
There is such a procedure. It's very different from the
TM checking procedure because the practices are so
different, but both are for the same purpose, to ensure
effective practice.
> The siddhis are much more complex, you have to think the
> words in intervals, you have to remember a whole bunch
> of them etc. This shows to me, that the whole checking
> procedure is indeed a (light) form of hypnosis / auto-
> suggestion. That's why it feels so good, because you get
> into some passive kind of guided procedure.
This is utter nonsense. Nothing you've said in this post
that I've quoted makes any sense. It's hard for me to
believe you ever took the TM-Sidhis course or ever
learned how to do checking.
(And I've never found that checking "feels so good," in
the sense of better than meditating on my own. Nor have
I ever heard anyone else say that.)
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> Yep, exactly. And in most cases it returns to one mantra
> with the advanced techniques, all can get the same mantra.
I can't speak to any advanced technique beyond the first,
which is all I have, but I didn't get a different mantra
from the one I had been given to start with.
