Now please tell us what was the deal on that? Why would they be afraid of an eclipse and how did TM or its hidden and denied Hindu roots have a hand in that?
________________________________ From: salyavin808 <fintlewoodle...@mail.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 8, 2013 1:09 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi to Salya --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@...> wrote: > > I enjoy your sense of humor, puns and all, even if we're on different sides > of the fence about TM, TMO, etc. But I admit it is a stretch to picture you > as a tough administrator, sending a screamer home (-: Ooh yes Share, beware getting on the wrong side of me ;-) > I started TM in March 1975 and came to MIU 6 months later. I was totally > clueless! Now I've been around for over 35 years and lived in FF for the > last 8 years, before that was on campus for 14 years either on staff or as a > graduate student. My point is that I'm not a newbie to all this. And as > I've gotten older I think I've become more accepting, more realistic. And I > know something about organizations and life on this planet. So I have > ceased to look for perfection or a lack of flaws in anyone or any group. > Heck I think such would be pretty boring anyway. Maybe one way to say it is > that my boundaries are simply different than those of some others here on > FFL. That also enhances life's richness (-:   Accepting and realistic? You mean you put up with more crap? I held the TMO to the standards they claimed for themselves and as such our working relationship didn't last very long! It's all very well claiming to be a perfect society but you've got to deliver the goods sooner or later. Perhaps I'm too demanding? Anyway, it's the failure of the belief system to offer anything realistic that settled it for me. For instance, I couldn't stay with an organisation that claimed to be science-based but where everyone hid in their offices during an eclipse. Physics PHD's scared of shadows! ________________________________ > From: salyavin808 <fintlewoodlewix@...> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, March 8, 2013 11:06 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi to Salya > > >  > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote: > > > > What I meant is that for me it doesn't matter if they are enlightened or > > not. What matters is how they treat me. If I don't like how they > > treat me, then I don't engage. If their treatment of another is wrong, > > then I do my best to stop it. > > I've never heard Hagelin laugh at Einstein or Newton. But I haven't > > attended ALL his lectures either. > > It was more a smug, superior sneer from Hagelin and a laugh from > the crowd. They don't know better but he does. > > > BTW, people haven't made noises, barnyard or otherwise, for a long time in > > the women's Dome. I'll let Buck speak for the men (-: > > I used to be in charge of the men's dome on courses. I never > tolerated any stupid noises either, but there was a woman (who shall remain > nameless) who used to scream her head off and claimed that sidhi teachers had > told her it was OK for her as she was close to floating! > > She never did levitate of course, but what a disruptive influence on the > peace and quiet of the dome. And as a typically self-righteous governor and > she couldn't *possibly* be doing anything wrong. I got her banned, then sent > home. I was a tough administrator that's for > sure! > > > > > Doing my program is part of my life and enriches the rest of my life. I > > have also not done program so I'm speaking from experience, not from theory. > > I guess most who do it like it more than I did or they wouldn't > persist with it! I hope that's the case, I felt much better after > stopping YFing, the ups and downs* weren't worth it for what I'd > gained. > > * I typed that without realising the pun :D > > > ________________________________ > > From: salyavin808 <fintlewoodlewix@> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Friday, March 8, 2013 8:54 AM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi to Salya > > > > > >  > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote: > > > > > > Evolution should be visible. Is that true? Can you > > > absolutely know that's true? > > > > I think so. > > > > How do we know someone (or anything) has evolved in any way unless > > it shows. In this instance, if someone is an aggressive or neurotic asshole > > after many years of TM it's safe to conclude that it hasn't > > worked. I know a lot of people like this, they'll tell you it's the > > best thing ever though. > > > >  Questions from Byron Katie's The Work. > > > And about YF: I don't think it involves breaking the law of > > > gravity. I think it involves accessing a deeper law of laws that > > > are yet to be discovered and or articulated. This is my best > > > guess. > > > > That the law of gravity isn't being broken is a given. I had the > > deep, deep misfortune of seeing John Hagelin's lecture of the > > physics of yogic "flying". His basic contention is that we can > > think from the level of the Planck scale and influence the > > probability of quantum events into whatever desire we choose. > > Thus gaining complete mastery over the laws of nature. > > > > Apart from the rather obvious fact that no one has ever demonstrated > > mastery of anything other than jumping in a predictably parabolic > > fashion the idea doesn't stand up to the merest scrutiny. We can > > measure individual thoughts at the level they occur in the brain, > > they don't disappear beyond the quantum level just because you are > > meditating. They wouldn't exist there in the same way that nothing > > individual exists at that level because everything at the quantum > > scale is indistinguishable. Not that you could detach thoughts from where > > they are and shrink them billions of times or send them to "deeper" levels > > anyway. > > > > None of it makes a fart of sense in any way that I can see. It's so > > illogical and preposterous it just makes me want to scream and pull what's > > left of my hair out. But what gets me about it is the way Hagelin laughs at > > Einstein and Newton, and the audience laughs along "They were so misguided. > > We know the truth, we have mastery over nature" Bonkers cult weirdness, I > > would love to lend it to some physicists I know but I'd hate them to die > > laughing. > > > > My best guess after doing it religiously for ten years is that YF > > is a bunch of deludedly hopeful people jumping about making farmyard > > noises. And not a lot else. And I used to do demo's for the NLP! > > > > Remove the beliefs and teaching about what is happening and you'll > > stop doing it by the end of the week. Guaranteed. And suddenly a whole new > > wonderful vista opens up, it's called having time to do stuff other than > > sit in the dome! I loved it when I quit the "sidhis" it > > was like being born again, I can't explain why it took ten years but there > > you go.... > > >
